Long Eye Relief Scope
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LER scopes have never truly caught on, and as a result, the choices you get with them are limited. There is no "great" selection of scopes to choose from. Off the top off my head:
Hi-Lux 2-7: 2 models, one duplex ans one a bdc (a duplex with 2 additional stadia)
Vortex 2-7: duplex
Bushnell 2-6: duplex
Leupold 2.5X: duplex
Leupold 2-7: duplex
NC Star/UTG 2-7: duplex
The Leupold may be a 2-8. I'm just working from memory here. I also know that Nikon males at least one model, but I have no experience with them.
To the best of my knowledge there are no illuminated scout scopes at this time. You can, however, mount a red dot scope in a forward/scout position. This would give you both illumination and a centre-dot, but no magnification
Hi-Lux 2-7: 2 models, one duplex ans one a bdc (a duplex with 2 additional stadia)
Vortex 2-7: duplex
Bushnell 2-6: duplex
Leupold 2.5X: duplex
Leupold 2-7: duplex
NC Star/UTG 2-7: duplex
The Leupold may be a 2-8. I'm just working from memory here. I also know that Nikon males at least one model, but I have no experience with them.
To the best of my knowledge there are no illuminated scout scopes at this time. You can, however, mount a red dot scope in a forward/scout position. This would give you both illumination and a centre-dot, but no magnification
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My son has a Mod. 94 with an XS scope rail on it, mounts in the rear site dovetail. I put a Burris Fastfire III on it. For quick shooting in heavy cover this is a great combo, lighter than a scope, doesn't change the rifles balance. I realize you asked about scout scopes but don't know if you considered this.
One of the downfalls of the scout scope is dusk/dawn. The lack of available illuminated reticle, and the generally smaller objective make for poor clarity of the crosshairs. Have you thought about a low power, traditional scope, like the Vortex Strke Eagle. Other than forward mounting, it will do most of what you want.
All of this makes it sound like I'm against scout rifle/scout scope set-ups. I'm not. I've got 3 different rifles with LER scopes set up right now. I've just used them a bit and have come to accept the short-comings along with the advantages
I also forgot the Burris LER scopes. I have ZERO experience with them.
All of this makes it sound like I'm against scout rifle/scout scope set-ups. I'm not. I've got 3 different rifles with LER scopes set up right now. I've just used them a bit and have come to accept the short-comings along with the advantages
I also forgot the Burris LER scopes. I have ZERO experience with them.
I like mine better than a red-dot, anytime, except for 3-gun with an AR. Then it's a red-dot. And since I've gotten older irons are pretty much a thing of the past.
I truly like the scout scope idea/set-up. It works well for me. The scope is out of the way, it's fast to the shoulder, easy to shoot with both eyes open, has decent magnification for longer shots (200-250 yards). There's really not muck to dislike about it, except for the limited selection of scopes/options.
I read an article a couple years ago, discussing Jeff Cooper and the scout rifle. The one comment that I really took away from the article was, and I'm paraphrasing here, "in the last 20 to 30 years firearms have advanced dramatically. You can now buy an MOA rifle out of the box, for under $400. Ammunition, both powder and bullet technology, has rapidly advanced. Even optics. You now have scopes that can literally calculate your shots. BUT, because scout rifles never gained widespread popularity and acceptance, the scopes available have not changed a huge amount since the 1980's"
Although scout rifles have been around for at least 50 years, I don't think they have ever been as popular as they are right now. Almost every major manufacturer seems to be offering a "Scout" rifle. Some of this is because of Rutgers aggressive marketing with their "Gunsite", and maybe some of it is just that it's an idea who's time has come. Hopefully with the present popularity we will see companies stepping up and offering more/better scopes for the consumer
I truly like the scout scope idea/set-up. It works well for me. The scope is out of the way, it's fast to the shoulder, easy to shoot with both eyes open, has decent magnification for longer shots (200-250 yards). There's really not muck to dislike about it, except for the limited selection of scopes/options.
I read an article a couple years ago, discussing Jeff Cooper and the scout rifle. The one comment that I really took away from the article was, and I'm paraphrasing here, "in the last 20 to 30 years firearms have advanced dramatically. You can now buy an MOA rifle out of the box, for under $400. Ammunition, both powder and bullet technology, has rapidly advanced. Even optics. You now have scopes that can literally calculate your shots. BUT, because scout rifles never gained widespread popularity and acceptance, the scopes available have not changed a huge amount since the 1980's"
Although scout rifles have been around for at least 50 years, I don't think they have ever been as popular as they are right now. Almost every major manufacturer seems to be offering a "Scout" rifle. Some of this is because of Rutgers aggressive marketing with their "Gunsite", and maybe some of it is just that it's an idea who's time has come. Hopefully with the present popularity we will see companies stepping up and offering more/better scopes for the consumer
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- In the shadows of the Rockies
I have a Leupold FX-II IER 2.5x28mm Scout scope on my take-down 358 Winchester BLR. A good set up for a take-down rifle with the scope mounted on the barrel because it remains zeroed upon reassembly.
Field of view is narrower than the Leupold FX-II Ultralight 2.5x20mm (which I had on my Sako 85 Kodiak 375 H&H Magnum shown here), but the Scout scope set up also helps to maintain peripheral vision. Good for hunting in timber but I've also used it on Moose at about 200 meters.
Field of view is narrower than the Leupold FX-II Ultralight 2.5x20mm (which I had on my Sako 85 Kodiak 375 H&H Magnum shown here), but the Scout scope set up also helps to maintain peripheral vision. Good for hunting in timber but I've also used it on Moose at about 200 meters.
This is the leupold FX II. I got a great deal on this 45-70 SBL and thought some day I would upgrade to stainless and grey laminate, but circumstances with Remlin, etc have kept me from the switch. The blued has held up well in wet hunting conditions.
Ditto - same scope on my Marlin 444S, retired my old 4X40 to install it. Holds up well to that caliber. I also have one, barrel-mounted, to my .308 Browning BLR Stainless Takedown lever - where it also works very nicely. I actually have one more, still factory shrink-wrapped in the box and am considering mounting it on my Winchester AE Black Shadow in 444 Marlin, that thing kicks like a mule ('way worse than the "real" 444) and I think I want the extra eye relief to avoid the half-moon eyebrow modification. But the Winnie is a shorter stock and the longer eye relief may be too much for it (I've found that the IER Leupold FXII's that I have need at least 4.5" to get a good picture, and 6" - 7" of relief seems about ideal - I moved the FXII on my JM Marlin as far forward as I could to gain that minimum distance).
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