Blonde Mosin Nagant

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I'm the second owner of a 1939 Tula 91/30. The original owner said the blonde stock is original.

Can someone please help me verify that the stock is original?
Thanks a lot

 
There are original condition Mosin stocks that are blonde but they are uncommon. Combination of a lighter wood with a thinner dye, etc.

This one looks to have had her finish stripped off by Mr. Bubba.
 
I just went back and re-read the messages between the original owner and myself and he said:

"It was always blonde, the gun has not been messed with"

I questioned him about it because I was suspicious.
 
That just means as long as he has had it and that he never messed with it. That would be my interpretation of that statement.
He's far from guaranteeing its originality , that's for sure. IMHO.
 
I don't know if this helps but back in the mid sixties Lever Arms brought in a shipment of Mosin 91/30s of close to 150 rifles. About a third of them were BLONDE. A few of them were so white they looked like they were bleached. They weren't of course but they certainly stood out in the crowd.
 
sigrunes said:
That just means as long as he has had it and that he never messed with it. That would be my interpretation of that statement.
He's far from guaranteeing its originality , that's for sure. IMHO.
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When someone is selling a gun and the buyer asks a question the answer should be an honest one. He said "it was always blonde"
He was the original owner and would know how the gun came. It was a straight up lie, there is no interpreting that wrong.

I bought ammo and the gun was thrown in for a little more money so I'm not too worried about it but I'm also not happy with a seller from this site lying about it. The sale had already been made when I asked him so he had nothing to lose by telling me the truth.
 
bearhunter said:
I don't know if this helps but back in the mid sixties Lever Arms brought in a shipment of Mosin 91/30s of close to 150 rifles. About a third of them were BLONDE. A few of them were so white they looked like they were bleached. They weren't of course but they certainly stood out in the crowd.
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I believed him when he told me it came like that but now people are saying it was stripped I'm not too sure. I don't know how much people can tell from a picture. I'm no professional and that's why I brought it up here.
 
I'm always as honest as humanly possible in my dealings. Your point is fair. I'm simply saying maybe it was blonde when he bought it and he never messed with it is all. It's an old Russian milsurp after all. For example a person may think they have an unrefurbished , unfired original sks or mosin and to their knowledge or research they do but it may infact be refurbished or fired.
I'm not involved in the transaction , have no horse in the race , just throwing an opinion out there is all. If you have your mind made up , that's fair too for sure.
 
sigrunes said:
I'm always as honest as humanly possible in my dealings. Your point is fair. I'm simply saying maybe it was blonde when he bought it and he never messed with it is all. It's an old Russian milsurp after all. For example a person may think they have an unrefurbished , unfired original sks or mosin and to their knowledge or research they do but it may infact be refurbished or fired.
I'm not involved in the transaction , have no horse in the race , just throwing an opinion out there is all. If you have your mind made up , that's fair too for sure.
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I understand you're giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he was the original owner and said it came like that and that's why he bought it and I understand now that, that was a lie.
 
I have had a few blonde Russian ones in the past, but they all had a shellac finish on them.
 
JP said:
I have had a few blonde Russian ones in the past, but they all had a shellac finish on them.
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Just dragged my blonde, mismatched, 1915 (holy crap the thing is a century old),rear sights not Xd out, Westinghouse MN out to compare and it is shellac finish bought from International in the late 1980s.
 
My m44 is blonde and not red, it has the normal shellac finish that has some flaking like most mosins have so I think that some of them came that way from the arsenals. I actually like my m44 being blonde as it's different.
 
bearhunter said:
I don't know if this helps but back in the mid sixties Lever Arms brought in a shipment of Mosin 91/30s of close to 150 rifles. About a third of them were BLONDE. A few of them were so white they looked like they were bleached. They weren't of course but they certainly stood out in the crowd.
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Seen several blond SVTs in my time. Finns ?

Grizz
 
"blonde" russian-made and refurbed mosins aren't bare wood with oil on them, they are stocks where the shellac mix was less dark.

When you see a blonde 91/30 refurb with no shellac at all, it's been stripped. Plain and simple. Those stocks with the spliced toe, refurb stamp cartouche and pressed escutcheons are all made post-war and started out blonde with darker shellac over them applied when the guns were assembled post-refurb.

Many Finns SVT40's are somewhat blonde. I suspect it's because they didn't get as much soldier care, in the form of rifle stock oil, as most finn mosins got.
 
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