870 problem

[drill702]

Occasionally while quickly cycling my 870 the full shell will fly out of the bottom were you load it rather than going up into the chamber , is that the cause of a weak mag spring?

 

[unstableryan]

does it happen when there's one shell in the mag or 4?

 

[madashell]

Could be your shell latches are bent just enough to not always retain it in the mag tube properly.

 

[Rob!]

I'm sorry, you must be mistaken about the model. 870s do not malfunction.

Rob!

 

[Bigrounds8mil]

I'm sorry, you must be mistaken about the model. 870s do not malfunction.

Rob!

Absolutely correct.

Should have bought a 590

 

[EL34/6L6]

590s have cartridge stops that bend and malfunction too, and the Mossberg tang safety will fail before an 870s cross bolt one will.

 

[Woody-to]

590s have cartridge stops that bend and malfunction too.

The cartridge stops on a Mossberg are separate from the trigger mechanism (unlike the 870), they pop out, and can be straightened out in a few seconds.

and the Mossberg tang safety will fail before an 870s cross bolt one will.

How do you figure? Again, the safety is separate from the trigger mechanism (unlike the 870). You could remove it with one screw, and the gun will still function. Only way I can see it fail is the screw coming loose, which shouldn't require a gunsmith to fix.

 

[IvoB]

My 870 which I've owned for over 8 years and hundreds of rounds later shoots/cycles flawlessly

 

[drill702]

I'm sorry, you must be mistaken about the model. 870s do not malfunction.

Rob!

It's not a real 870 , it's the express model

 

[albertaal]

I bought a Browning model 12 20 gauge really cheap a few years back, because it was dropping shells out the bottom. I took it to AC Douglas in Saskatoon. We looked it over, and he lubed it, and it has worked like a champ ever since. This shotgun had no oil in it, it was dry inside.

Try lubing your 870, and see what happens.

 

[struff55]

870 cartridge stops are separate from the trigger group . Even the Japan Btowning model 12 is many times a 870 express is and far above a mossberg . The cartridge cut off on the express work off of the action slide arm I suspect one of them may b slightly bent they are spring steel so not that easy to bend but it could happen

 

[Woody-to]

870 cartridge stops are separate from the trigger group . Even the Japan Btowning model 12 is many times a 870 express is and far above a mossberg . The cartridge cut off on the express work off of the action slide arm I suspect one of them may b slightly bent they are spring steel so not that easy to bend but it could happen

You are correct Sir. I was mixed up with the Winchester Trigger assembly.
My bad.

 

[cantgetright]

Occasionally while quickly cycling my 870 the full shell will fly out of the bottom were you load it rather than going up into the chamber , is that the cause of a weak mag spring?

My 870 slug gun has done that once or twice as well. Sucks when deer hunting and your follow up shot goes click because the chamber is empty and there is a full shell lying on the ground.

 

[madashell]

My 870 slug gun has done that once or twice as well. Sucks when deer hunting and your follow up shot goes click because the chamber is empty and there is a full shell lying on the ground.

Especially when the deer are shooting back !

 

[3macs1]

I'm sorry, you must be mistaken about the model. 870s do not malfunction.

Rob!

Not in the right hands they don't at least my couple of dozen don't
Cheers

 

[the spank]

Sounds like a double stroke or short stroke issue to me and that's operator error not gun malfunction. Witnessed it often on a skeet field, in fact I am guilty of it myself on more than one occasion.

 

[GLS_1956]

The magazine shell retaining catch spring might have weakened, or may just be crudded up. First give it a good cleaning.

 

[enefgee]

Take the trigger group out and give the gun a good shake - if a shell latch falls out, you need to re-stake both of them.

 

[drill702]

Sounds like a double stroke or short stroke issue to me and that's operator error not gun malfunction. Witnessed it often on a skeet field, in fact I am guilty of it myself on more than one occasion.

This could be the problem I was pumping it really hard earlier and no problem , yes we're still talking about the 870.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

My old Wingmaster would do this occasionally. Never did find any damage to the parts. I suspect it had more to do with the ammunition. I only ever remember it happening with the cheap low brass Canadian Tire brand and bulk Winchester loads.