well there are 5 that arent trijicons
glass on trijicons is equal to browe and elcan, people that say poor glass quality, I dont see compared to what? swaroski? sure.
What optic you say?
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well there are 5 that arent trijicons
glass on trijicons is equal to browe and elcan, people that say poor glass quality, I dont see compared to what? swaroski? sure.
Glass quality is top notch and there isn't an LPV around that can take the abuse an ACOG can. If lightweight and rugged are your requirements then the ACOG is hard to beat.
Why fix something that isn't broke? If an ACOG is doing the job then there's no reason to seek another option.
Ar180shooter
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Glass quality and optical qualities on the ACOGs is mediocre at best. Most quality sporting optics and most equally priced LPV tactical optics blow them out of the water for clarity, brightness and contrast. Being a fixed power, it is much easier to make it lightweight and rugged, no argument there. This is at the cost of a small eye box, short eye relief on some models, parallax issues and less versatility then LPV optics. They're good optics, but they have their limitations, and are far from perfect.
No one said they were perfect. ACOGs are bar none the toughest optics available. The tired argument about glass clarity is just that, tired. As long as PID can be made the clarity is fine. The versatility of an LPV comes at the cost of size, weight, and lack of durability. the short eye relief only affects the TA31 series, the small eye box aids in keeping parallax issues to a minimum. ACOG optics were specifically designed for service and are not intended to be ultra precision optics. The mission drives the gear train..
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Yes there are still plenty of ACOG fans out there. They're just a trusted issue optic you can take to hell and back.
yah they are better than acogs but very hard to find in canada
comparing lpv to a fixed power optic is not really the same
i like a acogs because
1 rugged
2 always the same sight picture when i look through it, no messing with mag or focus
3 no batteries
4 both eyes open
5 are not blurry with my eyes like an aimpoint
6 i can hit things at 100 meters as fast as a red dot at 50 meters
7 in the caee of the ta33 with MI mount extremely lightweight while still providing 3x
formy requirements hey are perfect
for my longer shots i have my nf
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Ar180shooter
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You said the glass is top notch, and it's not. Are you still maintaining that it is? It's a perfectly valid criticism, I'm not sure if you're debating that point or dismissing it. I agree it's not meant to be a precision optic, and that they are damn tough, never argued against that. All I'm saying is there are disadvantages worth considering when looking at an ACOG and comparing it to an LPV optic.
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The glass is top notch. What I was more implying is that people fixate on "clarity" like it somehow is the sole factor in selecting an optic when in fact it is far from crucial. ACOGs do suffer from relatively small objective lenses and they do show to be slightly darker than an optic with a larger objective lens, this is simple mechanics. I agree there are optics with very pristine glass and fantastic optical clarity that likely surpasses an ACOG. I'm also saying for a fixed power combat/service optic with the durability and compact form that is an ACOG there is nothing that comes to close.
You are correct in that there are pros and cons for both ACOGs and LPV optics. There is no free lunch. If weight, size and durability are your requirements then an ACOG will fit the bill. I like a good LPV but I wouldn'tr trust any of them to survive the abuse an ACOG can take. I'm more of simple is best kind of person. Mount your ACOG, zero it, forget about it.
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I have 2 of those rcos
What reticle is your favorite?
I really like the red chevron on my TA31 A4, M4 RCO's but have taken a liking to my TA44 and red horseshoe (mostly because it is the only red dot that can deal with my astigmatism). I have only used amber on my TA01's but don't find them as bright and crisp as the TA31's and never the green as I'm afraid it might get washed out in the background.
I really like the red chevron on my TA31 A4, M4 RCO's but have taken a liking to my TA44 and red horseshoe (mostly because it is the only red dot that can deal with my astigmatism). I have only used amber on my TA01's but don't find them as bright and crisp as the TA31's and never the green as I'm afraid it might get washed out in the background.
I like the rco reticle in green or red, after that horseshoe dot in red then green, that's because I like the windage lines. Horseshoe dot is the only dot that can deal with my eyes, actually acogs are the only optics that can deal with my eyes that's why I love them so much more than my aimpoints.
After that chevron in red or green and last would be crosshair.
After that chevron in red or green and last would be crosshair.
a smudge above the tip, that way you can still see your target
mebiuspower
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Hey frabill, I have a bridge to sell you.
The TA02 is a heavy scope at 18 oz with mount and battery. If it were me I'd look for another model. I don't know "Town Post" though...is it like kijiji where you meet up or would buddy expect you to send him cash? For a face-to-face meeting I'd be tempted to have a look at it at that price. If the guy's not on CGN it'd be hard to sell a $1000+ scope to the average rifle shooter so maybe he's looking for quick cash. I Googled up "ACOG TA02 Box" and found a few others with low-ish serial numbers (00000292 and 00001111) so that's not necessarily unusual.
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