Leeenfield long branch 1941 DP info needed... im desesperate

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Hi everyone!

I have try a lot of time to know where my leeenfield longbranch is from..(canada of course.. but it look loke mine is extraterestrial). its a DP. BUT...there is no drilling or deactivation mark or else.... Its never been shot (normal situation for a dp) but she is brand new.. not a used firearm that have been dp-ized after the war.... its a 1941 no4 mk1 fullwood. And she have no serial number at all.. and never been erased.... ��
I need information and maybe know its value on the market... anyways.. here we go with the pictures!
http://extreme-precision.forum-2007.com/t67077-leeenfield-long-branch-1941-dp

Thanks for your help everyone! ��
 
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Some rifles were "DP" marked only because both the rifles and ammo were no longer "scale of issue" and not because of any mechanical defect. I can't find the pictures on the posted link, but I've no doubt that some of the Lee Enfield experts will chime in with more information.
 
Got it! Okay, my 2 cents worth. From what I've read and seen, your rifle was probably assembled from non-serviceable parts specifically for training and drill but NEVER TO BE FIRED!!! The earlier comment I made regarding "DP" marked firearms was based on ones I'd seen that were just obsolete but not unserviceable. Military Collectors forum has some good information on DP marked firearms. That said, it has interest to serious collectors who want an example for their collection, and some of the parts (wood, rear sight, etc.) that do not actually impact shooting are worth a good buck today so restorers would pay handsomely for Long Branch parts.
 
How come the barrel is detached?
Are all the parts 1941 LB production? Bands, front sight protector, etc.?
If everything is 1941 original, I would suspect it was set up as a DP at Long Branch in 1941. If there are later parts, then it was assembled as a DP at some later date. What other marks are on the barrel?
Interesting piece, maybe a rare variation.
No, I wouldn't shoot it. Unserialed, DP from the get go, it was never intended to be fired.
 
The only part that is not from original is the magasine..
All the marking is shown in the picture.. nothing more.. and all the caracteristic is from the first to be build as i know the machining have been simplified later in 1941.. ive been sugested that this is in the first to be build in 1941 and been dp untill the production have been set up. Is this possible?? I dont know
 
Very interesting rifle. The added on "no4" is interesting, but judging by the centering of the nomenclature, it was planned to be there. It would have been different if the "Mk1" had been centered.

Low cut wood, the upper hanguard is recessed for the hinged front band, button cocking piece...everything looks right. As for the DP, I have seen receivers that were out of spec on Brens made into DP rifles right at the factory. The out of spec part was sometimes not critical to firing, so the gun could have been operable, but was out of spec for other reasons like the carry handle could not lock on the receiver.

As to value, I would suggest $1500-$2000, maybe more. An unfired 41 is unheard of, but the DP marking and having the barrel dis-assembled from the rifle both could slightly de-value it.

Not an antique...this really belongs in the milsurp forum.
 
I'm wondering if it may not have been set up as a DP for demonstration purposes - a study piece - early in the production cycle. The No. 4 was very new at the time. It might much more rare than a functional rifle.
 
I know one gent with a totally unnumbered early 41. Another one with one serialed EX XX.

DP...a bit different but who really knows?
Maybe it's fine but I would not shoot it or represent it to be in shooting condition.
 
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I forgot about this rifle until now.

I also had a 41 LB with a DP s/n and DP on the bolt.

It had no Long Branch No4MkI 1941 pantographing on the left side. (but it was very obviously a 41 LB)

I think it and the OP's rifle were cousins.

Some kind of experimental or developmental setup I thought.

It had a C67 sniper wood set on it originally, long before I had it. (long gone before I got it)

Couldn't think of a use for it. I wouldn't have shot it, although the thing was brand new.

And yes, it sold cheaper despite having a LB waisted sight protector on it.


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Yes, there were lots of LB proofs on various small parts, including the waisted sight protector.

But the barrel was completely unmarked/unproofed, and the only s/n's were DP.

Really did not know what to do with it!
 
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