Winchester XPR advice?

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Hey guys, I'm pretty new to these forums. Just had a question about the Winchester xpr 30.06. I watched/read a few reviews about it and the majority of them were very positive but I was wondering if anyone had some advice about the topic.

Thanks for help.
 
I just picked up an XPR in .243
I tried a variety of handloads in it the other day and all but 1 were sub 1" 3 shot groups, and 5 different loads shot between .5 and .6".
It's a really nice shooter, and good value fo the $$
 
What do they go for? How do they compare to the Vangaurd ?

Not as well built as the Howa/Vanguard's.
I'd take an older used push feed 70 over an XPR, probably get it cheaper as well.
XPR is Winchesters "race to the bottom" offering, has all the cheapening features of the other budget rifles in this category.
 
Not as well built as the Howa/Vanguard's.
I'd take an older used push feed 70 over an XPR, probably get it cheaper as well.
XPR is Winchesters "race to the bottom" offering, has all the cheapening features of the other budget rifles in this category.

I have to disagree with the "race to the bottom". I see it more as "opening up the sport". There are thousands of new shooters who could not afford one of the classics that got a start on those entry-level guns. For the guy/gal that takes their gun out for 2 weeks of deer hunting every year, they are an excellent choice. Of those thousands, a bunch end up getting bit by the bug and become serious shooters.
 
I have to disagree with the "race to the bottom". I see it more as "opening up the sport". There are thousands of new shooters who could not afford one of the classics that got a start on those entry-level guns. For the guy/gal that takes their gun out for 2 weeks of deer hunting every year, they are an excellent choice. Of those thousands, a bunch end up getting bit by the bug and become serious shooters.

How many versions of a Savage Axis do we need? Every manufacturer now makes a "variation" and it isn't for the good of the sport, it's their low cost/high profit margin goose.
Look no further then the Howa 1500 and what it retails for in the US, base models are $400 or less. There is no manufacturing skimping on these rifles, one piece forged bolts/receivers, machined alloy trigger guards, traditional barrel fitting (no ugly savage barrel nuts), hammer forged barrels. If the Japanese can do that, why can't the US makers? Oh right, they can...but since we have no problem overpaying for low quality thinking we are getting a great "deal" they have no incentive to improve their offerings, so they will keep finding ways to cut corners and cheapen manufacturing.
XPR isn't even made in the US either....another cost saving measure.
 
How many versions of a Savage Axis do we need? Every manufacturer now makes a "variation" and it isn't for the good of the sport, it's their low cost/high profit margin goose.
Look no further then the Howa 1500 and what it retails for in the US, base models are $400 or less. There is no manufacturing skimping on these rifles, one piece forged bolts/receivers, machined alloy trigger guards, traditional barrel fitting (no ugly savage barrel nuts), hammer forged barrels. If the Japanese can do that, why can't the US makers? Oh right, they can...but since we have no problem overpaying for low quality thinking we are getting a great "deal" they have no incentive to improve their offerings, so they will keep finding ways to cut corners and cheapen manufacturing.
XPR isn't even made in the US either....another cost saving measure.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The Howa/Vanguard is definitely a superior offering. The problem with it is that it's not widely available. Most of the guys buying the entry-level Rugers, Marlin's, Mossbergs, etc. buy them at the local hardware store or one of the big box stores. And, IMHO, all of those offerings are very adequate for dropping the occasional deer/moose/coyote. Some will move up to Rem 700's, Savages, Tikka's etc., but most will be perfectly happy with their acquisition, just like most were very happy with their Lee-Enfields.
 
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