Vanguard 2 .375 H&H

Of course you can shoot a 5x scope along ways. but it's hard to argue that a higher power is an advantage at distances

You're right ........ Larger scopes offer higher magnification which is useful at longer ranges. They are also bigger, heavier and don't offer such generous FOV at the lowest setting. The smaller scope doesn't have as much flexibility at longer range.

It's always a trade off either way. I use both kinds of scopes.
 
Hoyt have you hunted plains game with a 375 and s 1.5-5?
I have and that's my opinion based on experience.

Nope...

But I have shot impala whitetails on the hayfield plains of Manitoulin Island... and warthog black bear on the clear-cut plains of Northern Ontario... same difference for the purposes of this conversation... I just gave you an example that you could relate to...

And yes, with a .375 H&H with the 1.5-5X20mm and the 2.5-8X36mm, also with those two scopes mounted on a 9.3X74R and .35 Whelen and .358 Win and .300 WM and RCM and several 7X57's etc... etc...

For what it is worth the three scopes being discussed along with the VX-3 4.5-14X40mm, have been my go to scopes for three decades... and as a "tip of the hat" to your suggestion, I have more VX-3 3.5-10X40mm scopes than any other... I just don't think it is the best choice on a .375 H&H in most situations... but that is just my opinion... I am not offended by your choice.
 
Having a 1.5-5 on a plains game rifle is a handicap.
A 375 is capable of 300+ yard shots. Some plains game is small too.

Not so much a handicap as a compromise. Now, the new crop of 6x zoom range scopes eliminate a lot of the fringe areas by virtue of their wide range of zoom, but there is a significant trade off. The VX6 2-12x shows an MSRP of $1819.99 USD on the Leupold website and even their 5x model in 2-10x lists at $909 which will work out significantly more expensive once it makes it's way across the border. So much so that I wouldn't anticipate seeing any in the wild until oil gets back up to the mid $60/barrel range. Then there is the weight and sheer bulk of the VX5 and VX6 scopes. They're 5 ounces heavier than the 2.5-8x and, personally, I hate 40mm objectives on hunting scopes (though not as much as I hate 50mm objectives). They have to be mounted higher giving rise to a poor cheek weld and, the higher your max magnification, the larger objective you need to keep the image bright. Ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain. The farthest I have ever walked while hunting was 25km in Zimbabwe, carrying a 375 the whole way. By the end of that day I didn't want any more weight to contend with.

To me the bottom end of the magnification range is more important than the top end. Sure you might give up some distance that you can make a shot, but if I can hit an 80 lb 3 foot high springbok at 313 yards and kill him stone dead with the first shot, I'm likely not going to have to reach much farther. But you'll find it much more problematic to get farther away from something that pops up in your lap (as duikers love to do). In fact, if it hadn't been nearly the end of the day we probably could have stalked much closer. And, let's be honest, it's a springbok. You'll see another one in a half hour. In Zimbabwe I think the longest shot I had was on the buffalo and when you're in bush like that you want more room on the bottom end in case he doesn't oblige and fall over in a nice clearing.

Now, the vast majority of 375s in this country are living in gun safes and being used to frappe moose, bears and the occasional bison. In that context I wouldn't hate to have a 3.5-10x mounted, but as with any old Fudd, I'm more comfortable with what I'm comfortable with. The moose I have shot would have been shot just as well with a 3.5-10x as whatever I had on the rifle at the time (likely a 3-9x) and my bison was shot with iron sights at duelling range. Further, I like to plan for the worst which, to me, is embodied by the BC moose that ran over Steven Rinella on an episode of MeatEater, after it was wounded and went into the thickness. Or a bear under similar circumstances. Either one is no bueno and if I have to walk into a patch of alders or a willow slough following something that I want to put in the freezer, I want damn sure to be able to see clearly what I'm looking at.
 
I'm the opposite. 1.5, 2.5,3 etc are all plenty low enough. And being able to convert on a longer shot, where you practiced, load developed, spent all the time and money squeezing the most out of your gun and ability, is much easier at 9x than 4.5. Might be the biggest duiker in the history of duikers. If I want to shoot at it, I want the best chance of hitting it.
 
Generally don't like big and heavy scopes because it makes the rifle feel heavier and clumsy, or don't think I need magnification higher than about 5x for heavy game because the longest kill I've made to date was using a Leupold Compact 4x28mm scope (3.6x actual magnification) on an Elk at about 500 yards with my 416.

The lighter and more compact the scope the better. The Leupold VX-2 Ultralight 3-9x33mm might be the exception because of it's slim profile and light weight. Also like the Leupold VX-3 1.5-5x20mm and VX-2 1-4x20mm.

Here's my Kodiak 375 H&H Magnum with the VX-2 3-9x33mm and VX-2 1-4x20mm -

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Generally don't like big and heavy scopes because it makes the rifle feel heavier and clumsy, or don't think I need magnification higher than about 5x for heavy game because the longest kill I've made to date was with a Leupold Compact 4x28mm scope (3.6x actual magnification) on an Elk at about 500 yards with my 416.

The lighter and more compact the scope the better. The Leupold VX-2 Ultralight 3-9x33mm might be the exception because of it's slim profile and light weight. Also like the Leupold VX-3 1.5-5x20mm or VX-2 1-4x20mm.

Here's my Kodiak 375 H&H Magnum with the VX-2 3-9x33mm and VX-2 1-4x20mm -

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Looks better with the straight tube, to my eye anyway...
 
I love a good dangerous game rifle. I got a used Leupold VX-II 1.5 - 5 for $60 last week. Currently got it on my CZ 455 until I find a nice Brno 602 or 550 Safari to put it on. I was going to buy the guys gun just to get the scope and then sell the rifle but then he offered to take the scope off it and just sell me the scope. $60 done deal. 1-4 scopes are some of my favorite scopes so if I see one for cheap, I snag it. You never know when you will need a 1-4. They look perfect on a Mini-14 as well.

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The 3-9x33mm has the LR reticle which takes a lot of the guesswork out of hitting targets at longer ranges. Nice to have feature.

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Yes those are nice. I have one (vx2 3-9x40) I was going to swap out on a 7lb 375h&h currently wearing a vx3 1,5-5. Are the vx2 as tough as the vx3s when it comes to tolerating recoil? Are the internals much different? The tube length on the vx2 3-9x40 is perfect imo. A bit longer than the vx3 2.5-8 and shorter than the 3.5-10.
 
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I love a good dangerous game rifle. I got a used Leupold VX-II 1.5 - 5 for $60 last week. Currently got it on my CZ 455 until I find a nice Brno 602 or 550 Safari to put it on. I was going to buy the guys gun just to get the scope and then sell the rifle but then he offered to take the scope off it and just sell me the scope. $60 done deal....

A VX-3 1.5-5x20mm for $60?? That's a steal. :eek:
 
Yes those are nice. I have one (vx2 3-9x40) I was going to swap out on a 7lb 375h&h currently wearing a vx3 1,5-5. Are the vx2 as tough as the vx3s when it comes to tolerating recoil? Are the internals much different? The tube length on the vx2 3-9x40 is perfect imo. A bit longer than the vx3 2.5-8 and shorter than the 3.5-10.

Haven't had any VX-2 scopes that I've owned break. Odd that the only scope I've owned to date that broke under recoil was a VX-3 1.5-5 firing 500gr bullets at 1900 fps MV in my 45-70 Ruger No.1. Must have had a factory defect to begin with.
 
3-9 x1

I got this in a combo and will mount it on my Winchester 375H&H.

http://bushnell.com/hunting/rifle-scopes/trophy/3–9x-40mm

My intention to get Winchester Saf Exp. is simply for collection and show off to some newb friends of its recoil.
No intention to use it to hunt, so 3-9/40 scope at 25M - 50M is good enough.

NO, the gun itself is not handicapped with 3-9 scope. After shoot it, I AM handicapped. :(

Oh... Will be using Winchester integrat mount, but still considering a see-through mount. Just in my case.
 
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