5r .308 recipes suggestion!
- Thread starter Guillaume001
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and and I was wondering if any 5r .308 shooter are willing to share ther recipes!
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You start with the START load in the book and work up until you get the max velocity for that powder in the book. pressure = velocity
Each rifle is different. Unless you have/borrow a Chrony, you won't know what velocity the factory ammo gets, or your handloads.
If you are buying a decent rifle with a decent scope, you are looking for accuracy, not velocity. If you find an accurate load within the speed limit, count your blessings.
The suggestion of Varget is a good one, for a whole bunch of reasons. I suggest you buy a box of the AMax in 155 and 175 and the Sierra in 155 and 175 and do some load testing with all four. One of those will quickly show up as something your rifle shoots very well. You can then refine that load.
You start with the START load in the book and work up until you get the max velocity for that powder in the book. pressure = velocity
Each rifle is different. Unless you have/borrow a Chrony, you won't know what velocity the factory ammo gets, or your handloads.
If you are buying a decent rifle with a decent scope, you are looking for accuracy, not velocity. If you find an accurate load within the speed limit, count your blessings.
The suggestion of Varget is a good one, for a whole bunch of reasons. I suggest you buy a box of the AMax in 155 and 175 and the Sierra in 155 and 175 and do some load testing with all four. One of those will quickly show up as something your rifle shoots very well. You can then refine that load.
I shot mine for the first time a few days ago, easiest gun ever to sight in. I use IMR 4064 with Hornady 168 gr HPBT. I started near the bottom and worked up, all powder weights shot very good but I am going to load up a bunch with 43 gr for now. I love this rifle, Cheers Roscoe
175 SMK / 41 gn Varget worked the best for me. It's a weak load but gives the best accuracy. Check out http://www.tobystactical.com/2007/11/remington-700-5r-milspec-part-3.html, lots of info from 5r owners regarding factory ammo and handloads. Every rifle is different though, you'll need to find your sweet spot.
168 gr SMK BTHP/ 43.5 gr VARGET, 210m Primers over Norma Brass. Best group was .5 moa hundred meters average around .75. Stock 20" 5r with exception to a 1lb trigger tech trigger and I am not the best bench rest shooter by any means so id say thats a good start. Also no where near max load. I bump the shoulders with a f/l sizing die and 2 thou. off the lands as suggested on most pr forums! what matters most is consistency as Im sure you are aware of already. Everything should way the same/ same length. Depends how OCD you want to get!!
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Mine likes it hot. It used to have two accuracy nodes, one slower and one at near max. After two years, my 5r only does well with the hotter loads now. 24" 5r barrel, Winchester cases, 210M primers, IMR 4064, all rounds loaded long at 2.900":
- 46.8 grains with Sierra 175 gr TMK, 2786 FPS.
- 44.0 grains with Sierra 175 gr SMK or Berger 175 gr LRBT, 2636 FPS.
No signs of over pressure with all loads, except a mildly stiff bolt about 1 out of 10 rounds with the TMKs.
My best results have been with the Bergers but I still have 500 TMKs to go through for the rest of the summer.
As impressed as I originally was with the 5r barrel when I got it, about 2000 rounds later it has settled into a solid 1/2 MOA barrel, not that much different from the other 700s I have owned.
- 46.8 grains with Sierra 175 gr TMK, 2786 FPS.
- 44.0 grains with Sierra 175 gr SMK or Berger 175 gr LRBT, 2636 FPS.
No signs of over pressure with all loads, except a mildly stiff bolt about 1 out of 10 rounds with the TMKs.
My best results have been with the Bergers but I still have 500 TMKs to go through for the rest of the summer.
As impressed as I originally was with the 5r barrel when I got it, about 2000 rounds later it has settled into a solid 1/2 MOA barrel, not that much different from the other 700s I have owned.
Not to derail... you mention trigger tech trigger? Did you know about the safety recall on some models? I just found out recently and have one in my Remmy 700 sps.
Btw, 42.5 varget, Hrndy 168 hpbt, Nosler brass, Fed gmm lr primers is my .5 moa load in 20" barrel 1/10 twist r-700.
Read a reloading manual or two and start at the lowest load and work your way up in .2g - also make sure the COAL is the same for each load find something that works and try not to exceed 2.800 the cartridge overall length. I would invest in a Hornady Ojive set and when you measure different bullets make sure the ojive is the same
Mine liked, like most others, 44+ gr Varget and a 175 SMK seated to 2.80 COAL (Lapua brass and a FGMM primer).
Do note, the rifling is way far away in 5r's - i tried seating them 20 thou off, but hardly any bullet was left in the case! I can't remember the COAL with a 175smk, but i want to say 2.95" for 20 thou off.... Went back to book lengths, and it shot stellar.
Do note, the rifling is way far away in 5r's - i tried seating them 20 thou off, but hardly any bullet was left in the case! I can't remember the COAL with a 175smk, but i want to say 2.95" for 20 thou off.... Went back to book lengths, and it shot stellar.
and this has exactly what to do with a .308? And how can COAL be two different numbers?
Yup, if I went to 5 thou off the lands in my .308 700 5r I'd have to use it like an artillery piece. Remove the bolt, shove the 168gr bullet into the pipe, stuff in the cartridge with a paper wad to hold in the powder, replace the bolt, fire. At about 90 thou off the lands in mine a 168 is seated properly. I CAN get a 178AMX seated nicely in the brass at about 10 thou off the lands. It seems to work well.
if you get your hands on lighter bullets, i had some great results with SMK 155gr's with 44.1gr IMR4064, COAL of 2.795"
0.25-0.50 MOA @ 200yards from my 5R. I'm playing around with other bullets right now but I have yet to beat that previous load...
0.25-0.50 MOA @ 200yards from my 5R. I'm playing around with other bullets right now but I have yet to beat that previous load...
