Ammo Question

French made 30-06, they received a large number of M-1 Garands, M1903 & M1917 during WW2.
 
...that's amazing...

...i never cease to be amazed at what CGNers know...

(or don't as the case may be) :)
 
"TE" is the manufacturer - Cartoucherie de Toulouse and "D" is the metal supplier - Societe Electromecanique de Dives

The case mouth seal guards against moisture and they came in black and red. They do not indicate the type of ball loading.

According to Chris Punnett, Toulouse manufactured a number of experimental boxer primed cased, although none were available to him for inspection.

It's possible the purple primer indicates one of these but I have my doubts. I've posted a thread on BOCN to see if we come up with any other information.
 
37patt said:
"TE" is the manufacturer - Cartoucherie de Toulouse and "D" is the metal supplier - Societe Electromecanique de Dives

The case mouth seal guards against moisture and they came in black and red. They do not indicate the type of ball loading.

According to Chris Punnett, Toulouse manufactured a number of experimental boxer primed cased, although none were available to him for inspection.

It's possible the purple primer indicates one of these but I have my doubts. I've posted a thread on BOCN to see if we come up with any other information.
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Great and thank you. Looking forward to hearing back from you

take care

jpc
 
Do not shoot that ammunition! A number of years ago that ammunition was being sold really cheap south of the 49th parallel. Both in 8 round clips and 20 round boxes. Quite a number of incidences were reported on that ammunition causing damage to U. S. Rifles, Caliber .30, M1. See here: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?259182-Beware-of-Surplus-French-30-06-Ammo!!!! It was suspected that the "tar" sealant over time became hard and refused to let go of the bullet.
 
You also have to be careful about S. Korean surplus M2 ball ammo. This stuff is head stamped "PSE". Some lots are fine, but some are defective. There was a listing of good/bad lot numbers on one of the shooting sites some yrs ago. I once picked up some fired PSE cases plus boxes with lot numbers on the Brandon, MB shooting ranges. Most of the cases were split longitudinally.
 
37patt said:
"TE" is the manufacturer - Cartoucherie de Toulouse and "D" is the metal supplier - Societe Electromecanique de Dives

The case mouth seal guards against moisture and they came in black and red. They do not indicate the type of ball loading.

According to Chris Punnett, Toulouse manufactured a number of experimental boxer primed cased, although none were available to him for inspection.

It's possible the purple primer indicates one of these but I have my doubts. I've posted a thread on BOCN to see if we come up with any other information.
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I have seen many a European made Military Ammo with sealant placed on the primer as well. From the photo that is one hell of a crimp, but it looks like some of the purple is visible on the crimped case as well.

Speaking from manufacturing processes in general, with no knowledge of that specific round, I suspect the case was primed, primer sealed, and then pocket crimped. I would want to see a few more to be sure.

In anticipation of the obvious question, its possible that the sealant at the bullet doesn't match the primer pocket because A), the cases were manufactured somewhere other than where the bullets were seated, or because B) the heavier sealant at the case neck offered better moisture protection where it was needed, but was too hard to use over a sensitive primer.

Just theories.
 
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