The New Glock Gen 5s

Its primarily Canadian target shooters who feel the need to drone on and on about acceptable trigger quality. Believe it or not we aren't a gun manufacturers target market.

While Canada is a relatively small market, we are by no means the only market concerned about triggers.
 
Its primarily Canadian target shooters who feel the need to drone on and on about acceptable trigger quality. Believe it or not we aren't a gun manufacturers target market.

If we aren't why the Glock 34, the M&P Pro, the Walther PPQ M2 & Match, CZ Shadow & Shadow2, Tanfoglio Stock3, Uberti line of western firearms the Ruger GP 100 Match Champion, 686 4.2", the 7 & 8 Shot Smiths? Don't even start on the AR platform. Just asking.

Are you saying the Glock's crappy trigger is a design feature, perhaps for those who shoot "with purpose" as mentioned above?

Take Care

Bob
 
The trigger may be decent, but that's where it ends. The grip shape is illogical, the bore axis is far too high, and the mag well opening is the worst I've ever seen. It's a terrible gun for people who actually shoot with purpose.

Watch some videos of Hwansik Kim shooting his Walther. He has no problems managing recoil even though he's a skinny fella, and his mag changes look effortless. Sure, he's some kind of cyborg, but he clearly demonstrates that what you say, doesn't apply to him. :)
 
The trigger may be decent, but that's where it ends. The grip shape is illogical, the bore axis is far too high, and the mag well opening is the worst I've ever seen. It's a terrible gun for people who actually shoot with purpose...

They should have checked with you first...................:rolleyes:

''The Walther shooting team is primarily shooting the Q5 Match and the 5” PPQ M2 pistols because of their excellent ergonomics and amazing factory triggers.''
 
I still don't understand why Glock factory trigger is considered as crappy though....

you could check how many people are replacing it, that should be a good indication how good it is from factory ...

and the real way to see the difference I guess is to try an actually good trigger ;)
 
They should have checked with you first...................:rolleyes:

''The Walther shooting team is primarily shooting the Q5 Match and the 5” PPQ M2 pistols because of their excellent ergonomics and amazing factory triggers.''

Wow! That proves a lot. What brand of firearm would you expect the "Walther shooting team" to use?
 
I own no Walhter and have never tried Walther, I only know it's German and they do guns for over 100 years and this guy says very nice things about it's trigger (11 min on video) - calls it a model for all striker fired triggers.

 
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you could check how many people are replacing it, that should be a good indication how good it is from factory ...

and the real way to see the difference I guess is to try an actually good trigger ;)

Well I did that too actually ;) I used to have the full Zev Ultimate trigger set in place plus ported Storm Lake barrel, steel guide rod, extended mag release, extended slide release etc etc all that jaz. Then I am forced to remove all that due to IPSC production restriction. Been practicing with full factory Glock for a while guess I am used to it now.

Considered that my other 2 9mm are both DA revolvers that Glock trigger might be a blessing ;)
 
If we aren't why the Glock 34, the M&P Pro, the Walther PPQ M2 & Match, CZ Shadow & Shadow2, Tanfoglio Stock3, Uberti line of western firearms the Ruger GP 100 Match Champion, 686 4.2", the 7 & 8 Shot Smiths? Don't even start on the AR platform. Just asking.

Are you saying the Glock's crappy trigger is a design feature, perhaps for those who shoot "with purpose" as mentioned above?

Take Care

Bob

If you believe for a second that those guns are produced specifically because of Canadian gun buyers I really have no idea what to tell you.

Regarding Glock's "crappy trigger" 1) it's not crappy, 2) yes, it's by design. It's a duty trigger. Meaning safe enough to not be accidently pulled. If you believe that a 5.5 lbs trigger with an extremely short and crisp reset is "terrible" again, I really have no idea what to tell you. It seems almost like you just have an irrational hate for Glock.
 
If you believe for a second that those guns are produced specifically because of Canadian gun buyers I really have no idea what to tell you.

Regarding Glock's "crappy trigger" 1) it's not crappy, 2) yes, it's by design. It's a duty trigger. Meaning safe enough to not be accidently pulled. If you believe that a 5.5 lbs trigger with an extremely short and crisp reset is "terrible" again, I really have no idea what to tell you. It seems almost like you just have an irrational hate for Glock.

Agreed. :cheers:
 
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]If you believe for a second that those guns are produced specifically because of Canadian gun buyers[/B] I really have no idea what to tell you.

Regarding Glock's "crappy trigger" 1) it's not crappy, 2) yes, it's by design. It's a duty trigger. Meaning safe enough to not be accidently pulled. If you believe that a 5.5 lbs trigger with an extremely short and crisp reset is "terrible" again, I really have no idea what to tell you. It seems almost like you just have an irrational hate for Glock.

No they were made for competition shooters not for for those who shoot "with purpose" whatever the hell that means. Not sure why you thought I ever did.

Nobody designs a crappy trigger and calls it a "Duty Trigger". Nothing irrational nor is there any hate. Do a survey on how many Glock owners change their triggers and sights. It is an old dated design that Glock recognized. They apparently have improved the trigger with a new design which may help, beveled the nose for ease of holstering and the magwell for ease of reloading and got rid of the finger grooves. I suppose the plastic sights are also "Duty Sights", not sure if any other manufacturer has managed to install them on their guns.

To para phrase a video I just watched regarding the Gen 5. When Glock first entered the market there were few if any light polymer, reliable guns on the market competing with the design. Today the marketplace is crowded with quality, reliable polymer offerings. The Gen 5 Glock is just another polymer pistol in a very crowded market. Glock followers will certainly snap up the latest offering, non Glock shooters have a large choice of guns to choose from all offering light weight and reliability including the Gen 5. Glock had to do something to shout out "me too" and they did.

Take Care

Bob
ps The LEO market is driven in the main by price. He who offers the cheapest price, including parts support, gets the contract. Glock has done a very good job at securing contracts in the LEO market.
 
1) no le agencies order the base model Glock. They basically all buy the steel factory night sights. The crappy sights are to keep consumer guns to a price point.

2) a trigger under 5.5# is not useful to, for example, IPSC production shooters. A Glock trigger becomes a 3.5# trigger by swapping one simple OEM part for another OEM part (the connector). Takes 2 minutes to do.

3) I recently bought my first Glock after trying everything out there first. I'm not alone in finding the Glock to be a good fit for me without a serious case of being some kind of out of touch fanboi as you imply.
 
Ps: the FBI just chose the gen5 based on performance balanced against price. It was not the cheapest price, the sigp320 was much cheaper. Just ask the army.
 
No they were made for competition shooters not for those who shoot "with purpose" whatever the hell that means. Not sure why you thought I ever did.

None of this addresses anything I've said so I'm not sure the relevance. So, sure? I guess?

Nobody designs a crappy trigger and calls it a "Duty Trigger".

Actually yes, they do. Almost all LEO/Mil contracts will specify a minimum pull weight in an attempt to prevent ND's. By most accounts it's the reason why if I had a dime for every department that issued PPQ's, I'd have exactly zero dimes.
 
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