Ruger products-dead for me due to idiotic engineering

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Ruger products-dead for me due to idiotic engineering
Seriously, people recommend Ruger 10/22 for SHTF.
Try to field strip the bolt on that one. Ruger mark III-build of metal, but stripping is painful and from the point of view of engineering -idiotic design. Ruger 10/22-full of small plastic parts... not easy to field-strip.. seriously, what type of SHTF are those two?

Now I am stuck with stupid Mark III housespring design, it won't come in place as the hummer clearance is to small, and seriously, who designs guns like that? Imagine a small lady or an old man disassembling/ assembling that stupid spring?

That's it for me and Ruger products:
1. stupid engeniiring
2. not suitable for field stripping
3. not suitable for SHTF

very sorry I sponsored the Ruger idiotism continuation by buying two of their products
 
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Ruger products-dead for me due to idiotic engineering

Now I am stuck with stupid Mark III housespring design, it won't come in place as the hummer clearance is to small, and seriously, who designs guns like that? Imagine a small lady or an old man disassembling/ assembling that stupid spring?

That's it for me and Ruger products:
1. stupid engeniiring
2. not suitable for field stripping
3. not suitable for SHTF

very sorry I sponsored the Ruger idiotism continuation by buying two of their products
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I imagine that Ruger's housespring and hummer designers did it deliberately, just to p*ss you off.
They will miss you.
 
Big time-Russian guns ( I mean long guns, not pistols) are definitely the best for the price, reliability and engineering is awesome.
Ruger engineering is what is called-circumferential schizophrenic thinking... man it is so far from Russian and German rifles.
Seriously, it looks like with time North American rifle engineering becomes worse , not better... I am not talking about shape/ ergonomy and exterior design-that #### is improved, but the content is definitely crazy.. "coca-cola-sofa-tv-toilet" generation... what can you expect from them?
 
I love both my 10/22 (older boat paddle) and my GP100. Both shoot fantastic. Whats so hard about a 10/22 field strip????? Putting the bolt back in can take one or five tries maybe, thats about it.
 
Can't remember a 10/22 (and we owned a few over the years) ever malfunction on us.
It's definitely on my shtf gun list.
Assuming that there will be no central civilian authority after the apocalypse a ruger pistol in 22lr will accompany my 10/22.
Both guns proven in the field over many years.
Thousands of rounds in a relatively small container.
 
did you try to field-strip it just like sks?
you have to remove bolts, then you can field strip 10/22 -thi is not field stripping, if you need extra tools-by default already
 
torontogungal said:
Can't remember a 10/22 (and we owned a few over the years) ever malfunction on us.
It's definitely on my shtf gun list.
Assuming that there will be no central civilian authority after the apocalypse a ruger pistol in 22lr will accompany my 10/22.
Both guns proven in the field over many years.
Thousands of rounds in a relatively small container.
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have you seen plastic trigger group.. seriously you would rely your life on that?
yes it functions well, both mark III and ruger 10/22, but if something fails or you want to clean it quickly in the field-it is not field stripping, it is peaceful garage stripping/ table stripping
compare that to sks-four things, put together-gun shoots, put apart-doesn't-no need for tools, 20 seconds and with bare hands your gun is stripped-that's what is field stripping is... when you can do it on your knee on the grass.. not when you need even surface, a screw driver, or when is painful like hell
 
PECHENEG said:
have you seen plastic trigger group.. seriously you would rely your life on that?
yes it functions well, both mark III and ruger 10/22, but if something fails or you want to clean it quickly in the field-it is not field stripping, it is peaceful garage stripping/ table stripping
compare that to sks-four things, put together-gun shoots, put apart-doesn't-no need for tools, 20 seconds and with bare hands your gun is stripped-that's what is field stripping is... when you can do it on your knee on the grass.. not when you need even surface, a screw driver, or when is painful like hell
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Well, why don't you put 20,000 of rounds and then report us what break on that 10/22, honestly if I would pick up a 10/22 for SHTF, I sure don't pick up one and for sure a few spare part won't hurt either.

But my choice would be .223 instead or last choice would be my CZ 858, it's all depend on what actually hit the fan.
 
Gnome75 said:
just because it popular does not mean its good, and vice versa
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100% ppl in N/ America believe TV/ advertisement a lot
I yet have to discover affordable, reliable and simple nice engendered .22 pistol/ rifle... RUGER doesn't fit into at least " simple nice engendered" category, thus it is a SHTF failure-BIG TIME
 
Why bother cleaning a 10/22. I'm not sure how many thousand rounds it takes to gum one up enough to make it stop functioning. I'm still working on it.
 
The win 92 and win 94 have complicated mechanisms with lots of small parts and if we didn't know better we'd put them on the no-shtf list as well.
The thing with these guns is that they don't break or screw up.
My dads old 94 hasn't got a bit of blue left on it but still levers and shoots a round unfailingly each and every time. As long as you feed it ammo it keeps shooting. That's what's required of a shtf gun. And that's what win94s and 10/22s deliver.

Now the marlin 336/1895 action is an action that is truly simple and easy to disassemble/reassemble for repair/cleaning whatever.
 
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