Ruger products-dead for me due to idiotic engineering

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You'll never convince most who have a lot of experience with 10/22s that this is not a consistent, dependable, reliable shtf gun.
I classify the stainless steel 10/22 takedown as the epitome of shtf firearms.
 
Gnome75 said:
just because it popular does not mean its good, and vice versa
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My assessments are based on the personal experiences of me and members of my family with the 10/22.
Unfailing reliability.
We have went to our little gravel pit with the nieces and nephews and shot thousands of 22lr rounds with our current 10/22 without cleaning and without misfire or malfunction.
That's as good as it gets for shtf guns.
 
I have metal trigger groups in all of my 10/22's and 10/22 based guns... probably 50K+ rounds through them with ZERO bolt failure (everything else is EASY stripping, and so is the bolt with the right tool)... the most compact, convenient, reliable 10 shot magazine ever produced... ZERO need to field strip the bolt... spray and go... so why wouldn't an apocolyptic-inclined meathead not love them?
 
I read the whole thread. What a letdown! I saw "idiotic engineering" and thought this was going to be a productive (magazine-disconnect bashing) discussion.
 
I have several of these unreliable pos's , apparently if you want them to run you have to buy shares in volquartsen.
 
One rule stays the same after the apocalypse:

"If it ain't broke don't fix it"

And a 10/22 ain't broke.

We put the timney replacement trigger in ours.
Expensive but makes a difference to those groups.
 
heronfish said:
Why bother cleaning a 10/22. I'm not sure how many thousand rounds it takes to gum one up enough to make it stop functioning. I'm still working on it.
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I am with you on that one, I have thousands of rounds through my SR 22, and have yet to have a problem. Other then the sh!tty after market 25 round clips, the factory 10 rounder work flawlessly, can't seem to wear it out either.
 
i dont know man, growing up on a farm i got a 10/22 back in 1984.
i have put well over 100k rounds through that gun and its never broke anything and still runs like a top today, what..... 33 years later?

growing up i cleaned that gun by shooting WD-40 into it until the juice ran clear, good for another couple thousand rounds.

still have the original magazine that came with it too boot.
flawless.

i think you may be overthinking this entire thing.
but i will agree with you on taking down the pistols.
i have one and it drove me crazy for a long time trying to put it back together.
finally got it squared away but it was not a fun time getting there.
 
cdm123 said:
I have several of these unreliable pos's , apparently if you want them to run you have to buy shares in volquartsen.
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Agree 100%. Glad a few of you out there got a reliable one, but if it won't eject from the factory it's a poor choice for SHTF! It's the only semi I've ever bought that FTE's 20-30% of the time
 
I have 10/22 if you run not original mags and cheap ammo and don't clean it, it will jam every mag mostly.and most ppl I know have same issue with it.... not sure where flawless 100K is coming from.. from bolt? Another planet? Another matrix?
No cleaning will lead to ftf/fte with most buttler mags... (and sometimes with original mags too) and before RCMP messed, it was a nice way to learn tacticalm. So again which ideal world you are talking about? Maybe u don't run cheapest ammo? And surf means any ammo- no failures.
Sure those malfunctions didn't require instant/ quick field strips but if they do, 10/22 is not field stripable as without tools you cannot take bolt out
 
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Wendell said:
I read the whole thread. What a letdown! I saw "idiotic engineering" and thought this was going to be a productive (magazine-disconnect bashing) discussion.
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Just take Sks apart and then try to do so for ruger 10/22... sure u can use tools for your beloved ruger.... observe and think... maybe then you would come to the nice conclusion: ideal vs idiotic mechanics/ engineering
 
ironshooter said:
You should get the Mark 4 and revisit this topic. It made huge improvements.
Also the new RPR are quite something.
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OK I will think about it, ruger pistol attracted me with Walter look and all metal parts
But that house spring crap stayed same crazy in IV
 
hoytcanon said:
I think we found your problem...

When the apocalypse hits you head east... I'm going west.
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If you are in Alaska, for example... crossing the Bering strait is it still going West or going Far East?

my problem is that after so many years, SKS, Mauser etc were designed.. the engineering is not improving, at least , for Ruger, but goes totally nutz and the prices for that crap do not go down...

my problem is that ppl have no idea what is a TRUE field strip is... as some still think that using some sort of tool to get the bolt out or significant effort to do so or doing a field strip on a table is a field stripping

my problem is that false publicity for SHTF prep in terms of quality and mechanics misleads ppl.. that's my problem

my problem is that ppl comparing bolt to semi-auto reliability

my problem is that ppl do not use the cheapest ammo available to test for a true rifle reliability

my problem is that people don't put 500-1000 rounds at once to test for reliability (this is just 20-30 mags-in real combat they fly away fast)
 
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