X95 podium bipod.
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Fab said no.
I believe it is in part to do with how easy one can mount a QD pic bipod to the x95.
I would have a look at an atlas clone from True North Arms.
I believe it is in part to do with how easy one can mount a QD pic bipod to the x95.
I would have a look at an atlas clone from True North Arms.
blaxsun
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Just get a QD Atlas bipod. It's the last bipod you'll ever need and you can simply swap it between guns. Besides, the Tavors aren't really accurate enough anyway - so I'm not sure how much a bipod is going to help...G2 T-Pod.... your welcome
blaxsun
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A bag is probably just as well-suited, then.
Not very fun...maybe if your making handloads or shooting a 15lbs, $5000 rifle at 1,500 yards but come on!!!
Also...its not easy to bench (or bag) a bullpup...trying to get behind properly in the sitting position AND get behind an optic correctly is hard to do, the compactness, the stock shape and the lower height of the optics makes this so. Kneeling or shooting off an knee is much easier if your not great at off hand.
It is really no different from a regular rifle. For the sake of curiosity I put on a QD harris bipod and shoot it with a small PRS style rear bag. It is as stable as any rifle but the accuracy is still just so-so.
The LOP of the X95 is longer than your typical M4(and in fact TAVOR is longer than M16A2) with collapsable stock and the rail height is lower. Once you take into that account and use the proper optic mounting height, it is no different than an AR, ie, use the Larue 1.93 ( instead of the typical 1.5) or put on an ARMS swarm sleeve.
In terms of shooting off supported kneeling, a conventionally laid out rifle will always be easier. Just look at the British shooting team using SA80 and the CDN shooting team using C7. I will pick an AR ( not 20") any day if allowed to support on the kneel, or use any supported barricaded position.
"Bullpup" is not really a shooter rifle, it is a soldier rifle. Soldiering means doing a lot of stuff and shooting is just a part of it. If I have a full city block to clear, it doesn't take long to realize keeping the weapon up for a long time is very tiresome and there are lots of obstacles to clear. I will happily trade away a conventional rifle for a bullpup even if I lose some advantages in "shooting". Also think of getting in/out of vehicles, having a free hand to deal with other things.....million of advantages but shooting faster and more accurately are not any of the reasons why I will go for a bullpup.
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I'm considering an X95 & want one in green soooo bad.... like you I don't like things on the foregrip except maybe a stubby grip lol.
Same here.
Plus... has anyone dry fired their Tavor off a front bag etc? You'll see the crosshair/dot jiggle off target due to the violent release. Keep in mind the lock time is also slow. Now let's also look at the fact that the Tavor both original and X95 aren't free floated! Pressure on that front handguard will influence the barrel. Same reason you see the Swiss PE90 shooters putting the front bag near the magwell when shooting from a bench. The Podium helps mitigate these issues. Along with making prone easier for those who use pmags with their Tavor.
I actually had some pretty encouraging results shooting C77 62 grain ammo out of my Tavor. There was vertical stringing but I was also using a front bag. I will be revisiting this with the podium bipod.
You guys using conventional bipods on your X95, I suspect won't like the results. That being said, the X95 is an improvement for CQB over the regular one.
They really should make a podium for the X95. That's the only thing holding me back from buying one.
Here's the current setup.
Same here.
Plus... has anyone dry fired their Tavor off a front bag etc? You'll see the crosshair/dot jiggle off target due to the violent release. Keep in mind the lock time is also slow. Now let's also look at the fact that the Tavor both original and X95 aren't free floated! Pressure on that front handguard will influence the barrel. Same reason you see the Swiss PE90 shooters putting the front bag near the magwell when shooting from a bench. The Podium helps mitigate these issues. Along with making prone easier for those who use pmags with their Tavor.
I actually had some pretty encouraging results shooting C77 62 grain ammo out of my Tavor. There was vertical stringing but I was also using a front bag. I will be revisiting this with the podium bipod.
You guys using conventional bipods on your X95, I suspect won't like the results. That being said, the X95 is an improvement for CQB over the regular one.
They really should make a podium for the X95. That's the only thing holding me back from buying one.
Here's the current setup.
Yes nice set up, the x95 sucks with pressure on forend after barrel heats up.
When I shoot for distance with it I rest it on my deck railing. On the enlarged portion of the trigger guard, every time I tried conventional bag rest on foregrip it just didn't like it.
Podium bipod would be an interesting addition to this rifle......can't wait for one.
Flash light mount? Your thoughts?
What's working for you?
I should add that there was a time when I never used a tactical light. But these days, the lights are extremely powerful, not heavy at all and mount easily. The idea of adding extra weight to the front has never been a favourite of mine. But.. again technology, lower weight, smaller size and availability of high end lights in the last few years has changed this for me.
Well, the tactical light is a tough one. For the original I would favour a Surefire scout and mount it on the right side rail which is high enough up not to need an offset mount to keep it out of your way. I'm not a fan of trying to use the light on the right side without a pressure switch as it's awkward for my setups and doesn't work well at all. I kept the original handguards on mine because I like the idea of running the pressure switch so you can use that button on the left side of the handguard. With the shorty vertical foregrip I have that button is very natural for someone using the vertical grip as stop rather than gripping it like a handle. Of course there are also a lot of front handguards that allow the light to sit under the barrel with the Tar 21. Which is pretty slick.
With the Tavor's both original and X95 I don't particularly like the inforce lights on them. Because, it's awkward as heck to activate the light. Ultimately I actually really like a direct mount on the left with no pressure bars etc. Which is fine with an AR carbine since you have the handguard length. With the Tavor rifles you don't have the length or with the original even a rail to mount the light on the left side. You may be fine with the X95 if you don't use a vertical grip.
For the X95 if using a short vertical grip, you likely want an off set mount of some type and pressure switch. If you don't use a vertical grip then the inforce short lights might be a decent option as well since you can activate it with your left thumb. But there isn't enough space for that and a shorty vertical grip unless you bring the grip way too far back. On a side note I personally hate the 12 oclock light mount. It's efficient and probably the best overall place, but I can't stand the look of it. Plus I don't like anything on the same place or in front of my sights/optics.
Even with the AR rifles some tactical lights look/fit better than others. For instance on my C8IUR I really like my Surefire Scout with the included mount and put on the left side rail. Works great. But that same light looks weird on my KAC SR15 with keymod handguard. I'm actually going to be getting an inforce for that one. It will also be directly mounted to the left rail. But again, lots of rail space so its not an issue with a short vertical grip.
The bottom one has the light mounted. Sorry for the crummy photos.
You can see how much rail space the SR15 has. There is a rail on the left side. There is lots of room to mount an inforce there and be able to easily activate it with the left thumb. This gives you an idea of just how much space you need for it to be easy with the longer newer inforce lights. Just slapping a light on is useless if it's not quick, comfortable and easy to use.
Here's a decent video on it that I found a ways back.
Let us know what you decide!
I haven't been in a hurry to put on any tactical lights for my Tavors since, well I have two of them. Other than the tactical lights, they are now both pretty much done. The podium should be arriving for the second one any day now. When you multiple the lights by 2, it gets expensive very quickly. I figure that will be an addition for when some super sale comes along.
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