Citori/light firing pin strikes? **UPDATE#2~I have pins, bottom one doesn't fit**
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Interesting comments on ammunition/primers.
To digress a bit, I only load with either Winchester or Cheddite primers and don't seem to get any punch throughs.
However neither of my current guns (new models Win 101s) or my old guns (Win Kodensha 101s) would reliably digest Federal 209A primers on the bottom barrel.
I think that the domed shape of the primer makes them harder.
We have found that they don't work well in 209 pistols for dog training either.
To digress a bit, I only load with either Winchester or Cheddite primers and don't seem to get any punch throughs.
However neither of my current guns (new models Win 101s) or my old guns (Win Kodensha 101s) would reliably digest Federal 209A primers on the bottom barrel.
I think that the domed shape of the primer makes them harder.
We have found that they don't work well in 209 pistols for dog training either.
bdft
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Well, the new firing pin is clearly the wrong part.
I would take very fine sandpaper and spend a while polishing the old pin at the shoulder where the taper begins. Don't change it, just shine it up. A light strike means that, for some reason either the hammer isn't hitting the pin hard enough or something is interfering with the pin travel. The pin may be contacting a burr or some corrosion inside the firing pin bore that limits its travel. Perhaps replace the hammer spring as well. Maybe take a picture of the exposed action and post it. The problem might be obvious to one of us.
I would take very fine sandpaper and spend a while polishing the old pin at the shoulder where the taper begins. Don't change it, just shine it up. A light strike means that, for some reason either the hammer isn't hitting the pin hard enough or something is interfering with the pin travel. The pin may be contacting a burr or some corrosion inside the firing pin bore that limits its travel. Perhaps replace the hammer spring as well. Maybe take a picture of the exposed action and post it. The problem might be obvious to one of us.
Thanks for the input guys. I'm open to ideas like that bdft, but when Googling this issue (and before WGP replied) I had read of several accounts where pins needed to be altered and "made to fit". Astonishing to me really. I also spent some time on Brownell's site and could only find the style that WGP sold me. I will take a photo of the exposed action on that side and post it here in a few minutes, but wondering now if I should contact Browning directly.
I've emailed Browning (not optimistic about a helpful reply) as well as Midwest Gunworks. More optimistic, they seem to be pretty Browning-centric. I've attached some photos of the action itself, nothing jumps out at me as being problematic, but until a couple of weeks ago...I'd never opened-up an over/under.
Wow, your a much braver gun nut than I !
The inside looks pretty clean considering the age.
Did you flush it out before dis-assembly?
Don't have much to add other than to suggest remain positive in your search for the solution.
Hopefully someone here can send you in the right direction before the answer comes from south of the border.
Rob
The inside looks pretty clean considering the age.
Did you flush it out before dis-assembly?
Don't have much to add other than to suggest remain positive in your search for the solution.
Hopefully someone here can send you in the right direction before the answer comes from south of the border.
Rob
Thanks Rob. Only real hiccup was that all the wood screw were mostly stripped (2 x recoil pad, 2 x trigger guard)...and figuring out how the trigger guard itself comes off. I repaired the screw holes easily enough, and remain positive about a solution. I'll update this thread when I've heard back. Digging online ALLOT (and I've mentioned it already) it's not uncommon to find accounts of guys having to muck with firing pins to make them work. REALLY hoping that's not the case though.
Anyhow, I'm slow/methodical at the best of times...so getting this gun stripped down to this level wasn't really difficult. Just the right steps at a careful pace.
bdft
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Here's a long shot. Have you checked the headspace? How much play is there between the barrels and the face of the receiver and how deep do the shells sit in the barrel? It could be, with an excess of headspace, the odd shell has the primer set forward enough for a light strike. As I said, its a long shot. I would replace the hammer springs as well and check the hammer travel. Make sure it moves all the way up for a clean hit on the firing pin. Check for side to side play in the hammer as well. I still don't see how you are supposed to make that new firing pin match the old one without a lathe.
Does the old pin protrude through enough to strike a primer?
As I mentioned, when I suffered light strikes, new hammer springs solved it for me. I didn't need to replace the pins. I've read of others with the same issue. The springs weaken, and light strikes.
Or, as bdft mentioned, headspace might be excessive.
As I mentioned, when I suffered light strikes, new hammer springs solved it for me. I didn't need to replace the pins. I've read of others with the same issue. The springs weaken, and light strikes.
Or, as bdft mentioned, headspace might be excessive.
