M305 in 7.62 x39
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Somewhere I did a complete review on this great little rifle, search some of the threads and see if you can find it, I'm too lazy tonight to do so. Basically, they are a lot of fun and shoot far more accurately than most of the people that will buy one!
Scott
OK so I figured out how to find my old posts, it's tough being a 20th century man in a 21st century world sometimes. LOL Here ya' go:
I picked up an M305A a couple of months ago. It has worked flawlessly since day one and round one. The AK mags looked stupid so I just cut them off and re-attached the floorplates. I also replaced the shorty flash hider with a "Normal" Length one because I just hated the look of that short one.
Accuracy was, out of the box, about 2.5 moa, (100 yards) with Chinese ball, with handloads I was doing 1.5 moa. Trigger pull is crisp and clean and the sights are typical Chinese M-14, M305 type, lock em down!
Mine is being glass bedded into a nice wooden stock as I type this, the stock liner has already been transfered to the new stock as it is required for magazine retention.
As to the no hold open catch problem, using the hold open catch as the ejector was actually quite a brilliant move on the part of our Chinese brothers, as there is no AK mag in existence that has the capability to actuate a hold open catch. (There are those that will hold the bolt back with the follower of the magazine but when the magazine is removed, using considerable force to do so, the bolt simply slams forward). Using the hold open catch as the ejector also makes the angle of ejection a lot lower so if you intend on fitting the rifle with an optic of some description, the empty brass will not strike the mount or optic. It also gets rid of 2 parts from the bolt, namely the ejector and ejector spring. I had a good friend 3d print me a "Chamber Flag" that holds the bolt all the way to the rear and when inserted makes it impossible to chamber a round.
During the 10 round rapid fire portion of our regular matches, 200m prone in 30 seconds from 2 magazines, shoot 4, change the mag and finish the string.
Speaking of ejection, smart and positive and into about a 3' circle about 8' to the right. Handloads go about the same distance but into a smaller circle.
These rifles, in my opinion, are a good buy. Cheaper by half than a Ruger Mini 30 and way more accurate than an SKS with a really nice trigger and proper aperture sights. They are also a good vehicle to get new and smaller shooters and women into shooting full bore military matches with a rifle that will not kick them and is far cheaper to shoot that it's full bore .308 cousin.
For those in the Edmonton area, our next Service Rifle match at the Canadian Historical Arm Society range will be the 10th of September and will be an NRA large bore match with a course of fire of:
10 rounds standing unsupported (no sling) in 10 minutes,
10 rounds kneeling in 10 minutes,
10 rounds sitting in 1 minute, and
10 rounds prone in 1 minute.
Note, all stages begin standing with a full magazine inserted and an empty chamber, on the command "Fire" the shooter adopts the appropriate firing position, charges their rifle and starts firing.
Scott
In addition, I received it back from my partner who glass bedded it for me into a very nicely refinished Chinese wood stock and it shoots even better. Used it in the match last weekend and shot 181/200. Mush lighter than the plastic stock and a very solid feel. I'll be using this a lot I'm thinking!
Scott
Scott
OK so I figured out how to find my old posts, it's tough being a 20th century man in a 21st century world sometimes. LOL Here ya' go:
I picked up an M305A a couple of months ago. It has worked flawlessly since day one and round one. The AK mags looked stupid so I just cut them off and re-attached the floorplates. I also replaced the shorty flash hider with a "Normal" Length one because I just hated the look of that short one.
Accuracy was, out of the box, about 2.5 moa, (100 yards) with Chinese ball, with handloads I was doing 1.5 moa. Trigger pull is crisp and clean and the sights are typical Chinese M-14, M305 type, lock em down!
Mine is being glass bedded into a nice wooden stock as I type this, the stock liner has already been transfered to the new stock as it is required for magazine retention.
As to the no hold open catch problem, using the hold open catch as the ejector was actually quite a brilliant move on the part of our Chinese brothers, as there is no AK mag in existence that has the capability to actuate a hold open catch. (There are those that will hold the bolt back with the follower of the magazine but when the magazine is removed, using considerable force to do so, the bolt simply slams forward). Using the hold open catch as the ejector also makes the angle of ejection a lot lower so if you intend on fitting the rifle with an optic of some description, the empty brass will not strike the mount or optic. It also gets rid of 2 parts from the bolt, namely the ejector and ejector spring. I had a good friend 3d print me a "Chamber Flag" that holds the bolt all the way to the rear and when inserted makes it impossible to chamber a round.
During the 10 round rapid fire portion of our regular matches, 200m prone in 30 seconds from 2 magazines, shoot 4, change the mag and finish the string.
Speaking of ejection, smart and positive and into about a 3' circle about 8' to the right. Handloads go about the same distance but into a smaller circle.
These rifles, in my opinion, are a good buy. Cheaper by half than a Ruger Mini 30 and way more accurate than an SKS with a really nice trigger and proper aperture sights. They are also a good vehicle to get new and smaller shooters and women into shooting full bore military matches with a rifle that will not kick them and is far cheaper to shoot that it's full bore .308 cousin.
For those in the Edmonton area, our next Service Rifle match at the Canadian Historical Arm Society range will be the 10th of September and will be an NRA large bore match with a course of fire of:
10 rounds standing unsupported (no sling) in 10 minutes,
10 rounds kneeling in 10 minutes,
10 rounds sitting in 1 minute, and
10 rounds prone in 1 minute.
Note, all stages begin standing with a full magazine inserted and an empty chamber, on the command "Fire" the shooter adopts the appropriate firing position, charges their rifle and starts firing.
Scott
In addition, I received it back from my partner who glass bedded it for me into a very nicely refinished Chinese wood stock and it shoots even better. Used it in the match last weekend and shot 181/200. Mush lighter than the plastic stock and a very solid feel. I'll be using this a lot I'm thinking!
Scott
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#1bcshooter
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Did any of them come with an 18.5" barrel?
#1bcshooter
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All of them . No 20"
If they came in 20" I would have bought one when they came in .
They don't seem to flying off the shelves & prices are dropping .
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Forgotten Weapons has put up a review of the M305 in 7.62x39 on YouTube.
Ian visits our "friends" at Marstar;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byeMLdt2r-I&feature=em-subs_digest
The comments section below the video has many fine comments worth reading, and does note that retailer has had "issues" in the past. Worth a chuckle after you've viewed the video.
Ian visits our "friends" at Marstar;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byeMLdt2r-I&feature=em-subs_digest
The comments section below the video has many fine comments worth reading, and does note that retailer has had "issues" in the past. Worth a chuckle after you've viewed the video.
Like many things CGN, there are a lot of people slagging this rifle, but few that actually shot it commenting.
It's got a nice price point for those that can't afford $1,500 rifles and such.
Interested to hear more from those that have shot this.
It's got a nice price point for those that can't afford $1,500 rifles and such.
Interested to hear more from those that have shot this.
#1bcshooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- North Of The DMZ (US border)
I have not seen any review from an unbiased customer... business / seller reviews and text and picture reviews do not count, 21st century... please whoever owns 305a plz do a decent VIDEO review
though I have to admit.. this video is very informative and nice... but again.. we need video from customers
paradoxically, no matter what I will buy both 305 and 305a... and then make a video, just like I did for SKS-KD
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