Strike Eagle zeroing issues

[mebiuspower]

Do alittle research in to the number and scale of optics production in the Phillipines.... Yeah, it would certainly surprise you. It did me.

And optical lenses include stuff going into med grade microscopes and other devices.

Think Nikon... and much more. But hey, why make an informed opinion when any opinion will do....

Jerry

The quote did not say anything about number and/or scale. Read it again.

 

[Got Juice?]

One test on one scope isn't the absolute gospel on the subject, but unlike someone's opinion it is factual and undeniable. I'm not saying Jerry is a liar but I am saying that talk is just that, talk. Never lose sight of the fact that Jerry sells optics to include Sightron so talking up the brand is in his best interest. As for winning competitions, who cares.. Every match and every discipline is different, some are done on well manicured ranges with zero chance for rough handling of the equipment while others are quite the opposite.

Wow. Until reading this line, you almost had me convinced you were an unbiased critical thinker in pursuit of excellence. But after reading this statement, I can only conclude you are some kind of hack or troll looking to make some kind of statement at the expense of another persons credibility based on product lines they carry.

Your credibility falls to zero as character assassination is the lowest form of insecurity that exists.

 

[jethunter]

Did I get under your skin a little??

First off you don't have to be an accomplished shooter to not be a dabbler. The typical dabbler is the guy who shoots once or twice a year and rarely owns a firearm long enough to see 4 digit round counts. The dabbler can also be the guy who must have all the latest gadgets and yet still can't achieve even an average level of competency.

One test on one scope isn't the absolute gospel on the subject, but unlike someone's opinion it is factual and undeniable. I'm not saying Jerry is a liar but I am saying that talk is just that, talk. Never lose sight of the fact that Jerry sells optics to include Sightron so talking up the brand is in his best interest. As for winning competitions, who cares.. Every match and every discipline is different, some are done on well manicured ranges with zero chance for rough handling of the equipment while others are quite the opposite. The vast majority of gun owners have bought and paid for their own gear. I highly doubt any of us are in the habit of regularly abusing our gear. Taking someone's opinion on their "match" wins means just as little as their personal opinions on unicorns.

What I've posted in the past and with the videos above is not my opinion but fact. Feel free to read up on the manufacturing processes of Nightforce and then try and find similar specs from the other companies mentioned, I haven't found any data. I'm sure Sightron/Vortex/Leupold polish their turret springs for two weeks before they inspect and install them. I'm sure they spend many times more on that(titanium) spring like Nightforce does. I'm sure the other guys use tubes 2-3x thicker than most in the industry like Nightforce does. There are other points as well but I think you get the idea.

Here's a durability test for you. I know, it's just a video which means nothing. Oddly enough I could only find similar videos for Leupold scopes, nothing for Vortex or Sightron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQRe_-fgmGQ

http://nightforceoptics.com/news

You haven't produced any qualifications or reason to take your opinion seriously except for links to more secondhand youtube videos. Dabbler.

I've dealt with Jerry for years and he has proven he is above board time and again. The personal attacks make you look childish and insignificant.

 

[84wh1]

Dont worry guys. Just a matter of time before X goes pink. Its a guarantee

 

[Jonty]

Lordy. Did my thread ever get hijacked!! Well I think I have a new scope. There is a delivery note at home waiting for me.

 

[DMS1]

Yes, this has been interesting. It's funny how the experience of burning through hundreds of dollars of ammo chasing crap scopes, and trying more products in the brand without success, I feel like an internet super hero when I try and warn someone about Vortex, or seem overly critical of their products. Then I come here and read this and realize what a douche bag I sound like. Thanks Kidx.

 

[jethunter]

Yes, this has been interesting. It's funny how the experience of burning through hundreds of dollars of ammo chasing crap scopes, and trying more products in the brand without success, I feel like an internet super hero when I try and warn someone about Vortex, or seem overly critical of their products. Then I come here and read this and realize what a douche bag I sound like. Thanks Kidx.

There are ways we can say what we think without coming across like a douche. Fine line perhaps, takes some effort not to slip over it.

The Vortex scopes have never really impressed me either. There are better quality scopes available for the same money IMO, but my experience with Vortex is limited.

 

[Kidd X]

Wow. Until reading this line, you almost had me convinced you were an unbiased critical thinker in pursuit of excellence. But after reading this statement, I can only conclude you are some kind of hack or troll looking to make some kind of statement at the expense of another persons credibility based on product lines they carry.

Your credibility falls to zero as character assassination is the lowest form of insecurity that exists.

No character assassination here, just never lose sight of the fact that Jerry sells optics. I like you think Jerry has a tone of knowledge and experience to offer.

You haven't produced any qualifications or reason to take your opinion seriously except for links to more secondhand youtube videos. Dabbler.

I've dealt with Jerry for years and he has proven he is above board time and again. The personal attacks make you look childish and insignificant.

You clearly missed the point. It has nothing to do with the individual and everything to do with hard data/facts. You clearly didn't follow any of the links I've posted. The construction methods of a Nightforce optic are documented and public, there is also a brutal torture test of one. The same cannot be said for Vortex or Sightron. The videos and the link discussing Nightforce construction methods are fact, not opinion or personal experience.

 

[scott_r]

The construction methods of a Nightforce optic are documented and public, there is also a brutal torture test of one. The same cannot be said for Vortex or Sightron. The videos and the link discussing Nightforce construction methods are fact, not opinion or personal experience.

Are there documented "brutal torture" (lol) tests done on TT optics? S&B's? Khales ect....Are all the construction methods documented and made public?? They arent, does this make them lesser quality then Nightforce....absolutely not in fact Vortex and Khales are prefered by pro shooters over Nightforce.