Tavor X95 or Modern Varminter or ?
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Yup, I have to agree, he answered his own question.
That being said he can't go wrong with either. I don't have an X95 but I do have a TAR21 and a Modern Varmint.
In my opinion the Tavor wins in the compactness and manuverability department due to the shorter overall length and rearward weight distribution. But that's where the pro's end for me. I know it's extremely durable but all that plastic just feels a little Fisher Price like to me. Oh, I almost forgot, it wins in the cool factor department but in reality there is no benefit to cool factor.
My MV is by far my favorite of the two. It is lighter, has better trigger, quality match grade barrel, accurate, exceptional machining and attention to detail, canadian made (if that matters to you, it does to me), customizable (but does have limitations, not all ar-15 components fit), ergonomically superior, and ###y af!
So far both seem equally reliable. Neither has missed a beat for me yet.
If accuracy isn't a concern since you say most shooting will be within 100 yards the Tavor will suffice but if you ever have any intention to occasionally stretch it out you're in for dissapointment.
If you can, try both or at least hold them before you buy. Get a feel for them and go with the one that feels best for you. A Tavor shouldn't be hard to get your paws on for a good fondling but the MV may be a little harder for you to check out first. If you can't get your hands on a MV to hold or try, an ar-15 will be close enough to give you a good indication.
If I were forced to decide to only keep one of the two, it's not hard for me to say that the Tavor would be the one leaving.
onetwentyish
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I have had all of the rifles you ask about and more. If your a bullpup enthusiast, the IWI x95 is hard to beat, and the DT MDR will be unbeatable once available here. But if your set in your ways and dont care about compact size over other features, than the ACR is in my opinion the best NR option, with the ATRS MV in a close second. The MV definetly feels the most nimble of conventional NR rifles, and is probable the best for 3 gun, however I prefer the ACR for its advantageous feature set.
your best bet is an ACR.
This is how I personally rate NR rifles from best to worse. YMMV .(The only one I havent used or owned in that list is the MV )
#1 ACR
#2 Tavor / X95
#3 APC
#4 MV
#5 Swiss Arms
#6 Cz858
#7 Mini
#8 Fail Tech
#9 MR1
#10 AR 180B
#11 XCR
#12 T97
This is how I personally rate NR rifles from best to worse. YMMV .(The only one I havent used or owned in that list is the MV )
#1 ACR
#2 Tavor / X95
#3 APC
#4 MV
#5 Swiss Arms
#6 Cz858
#7 Mini
#8 Fail Tech
#9 MR1
#10 AR 180B
#11 XCR
#12 T97
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It sounds like you've already convinced yourself of what choice to make. And I would say you're on the right track. As long as you don't mind the long painful waiting period. If patience isn't you're strongest virtue perhaps the Tavor would be the way to go. Or possibly find a NR ACR? Regardless the MV is the slimmest, ###yest most familiar feeling of the choices.
As for optics I don't think my choice will help you any if you're mainly shooting 100 yards or less. I went with a Nikon Monarch 5 ED 3-15x50 as it's mainly for coyote hunting and a little paper punching. It gives me the magnification range I need.
For your 100 yards or less maybe something like a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 or 1-8? Mid range quality and price point. Enough max magnification for 100 yard paper punching or hunting. And the 1 power setting gives you the ability to shoot both eyes open as if you were just using a red dot. Just a suggestion.
Good luck on you're decisions.
That's some very specific and qualitative feedback for the OP. Another great CGN post.
And somehow you think yours was any more informative?
I also bought my MV with the PRI carbon handguard, hoping to create a non-restricted Mk 12 build. It looks cool, and the hand guard is nice. My advice would be make sure it is what you want, though, as you mention you don't want a heavy gun. It is heavy, and is getting dated. I switched to a Fortis 12", as it is very light, and being Keymod is very customizable. Other than that, it looks like a great build. I love mine.
I think you would be making the right choice choosing between the X95 and MV, though honestly I might say the opposite if you chose the X95, lol. They are both awesome.
ComradeVlad
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gonna derail this thread into the dark side, has any body here converted a X95 to shoot from the left hand, I'M trying to help out a buddy who just got one and shoots left handed cause his right eye is blind, is converting the x95 the same as a tavor 21? you tube just show the tavor 21, thanks all
The light profile stainless barrel is the same weight as the carbon fiber barrel on the MV, at a significant cost savings. I have used mine heavily in 3 gun with good results and over 2000 rounds through it now. No significant accuracy degradation (at least not anything that would worry me at all for the ~4MOA long range targets in 3 gun) even with the barrel so hot you can feel the heat through the hand guard. I went with the Fortis hand guard and like the light weight and slim profile.
Topped mine off with a Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6, which is very popular in 3 gun, but is a great all around scope. My only complaint on the scope would be weight... its built like a tank.
Topped mine off with a Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6, which is very popular in 3 gun, but is a great all around scope. My only complaint on the scope would be weight... its built like a tank.
I approve this message although I haven't owned anything below # 6
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