Browning 9mm Revolver
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1. Not a revolver. You'll have a lot of curious gunnutz clicking on this thread because if Browning designed a revolver few have ever heard of it. That type of pistol you have pictured is commonly called semi-automatic.
2. Not Englis, Inglis, the domestic appliance manufacturer. The contract to make these pistols for the Allies in WWII went to them. Inglis was certainly producing them by 1944.
It's certainly of interest to collectors, and I'm not one so I'll leave it to others who keep track of the market to give you a price estimate.
2. Not Englis, Inglis, the domestic appliance manufacturer. The contract to make these pistols for the Allies in WWII went to them. Inglis was certainly producing them by 1944.
It's certainly of interest to collectors, and I'm not one so I'll leave it to others who keep track of the market to give you a price estimate.
As TheTooner said that is a wartime Inglis Manufacturing of Toronto made Browning Hi Power. The gun appears in above average shape and you can see the remnants of the MAB sticker on the front of the grip. Serial numbers are "in the white" which indicate it hasn't been refinished. All of this would add value for a collector. I am not an expert but I do own a couple of them. My guess on value would be somewhere in the low/mid teens......say 1200-1500.
You might also want to post this in the milsurp forum. There are several very knowledgable members who frequent that board.
Lots of good info here...
http://www.ai4fr.com/main/page_militaria__collectibles_canada_inglis.html
You might also want to post this in the milsurp forum. There are several very knowledgable members who frequent that board.
Lots of good info here...
http://www.ai4fr.com/main/page_militaria__collectibles_canada_inglis.html
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Tough question. We seem to put more of a premium on the Inglis guns and the German occupation Hi Powers here in Canada even though there were fewer pre war Belgian guns made than either of those categories. A lot would depend on condition, if it's all matching and what contract it's from. Off the top of my head maybe high teens to 2K?....perhaps more but but that's just a guess. The Canadian shoulder stocks alone have been fetching $400-500 at auction lately and that is usually plus buyer's premium and tax. There are fake stocks around so you need to be careful.
There are a couple of very knowledgeable BHP collectors who post on the Hi Power subforum on 1911forum.com You might get more info if you asked there but any pricing suggestion would of course be US based.
As always, multiple hi res pictures are crucial to establishing what exactly you have and a value.
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hatman1793
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A very nice condition 2T series Inglis BHP. Not sure why the letters are white-ish as the factory never did this.
The pics show it to be in VG+ or better, making the value of this gun C$1550-2000.00. A very nice under-rated piece of Canadian history. These autos are more rare than Colt DiamondBacks, Pythons, and WW1 Colt 1911's.
The pics show it to be in VG+ or better, making the value of this gun C$1550-2000.00. A very nice under-rated piece of Canadian history. These autos are more rare than Colt DiamondBacks, Pythons, and WW1 Colt 1911's.
I think you'll find the Inglis factory always did this. From everything I understand the Inglis pistols had the serial numbers applied after the phosphate finish was done and they were cut through the finish into the raw steel. ....... hence numbers being "in the white". The white numbering is actually indicative of an original factory finish.
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Trues unless you have an early 0T that had serial put one then finished. The mutual,aid sticker was installed after that. There was a mention on this in the Inglis thread I am fortunate enough to own one of these.
Btw op your pistol was manufactured Oct 1944
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Were the Chinese series guns made before the "T" Inglis guns or concurrently? I have a low number (CH66) gun that is "in the white"
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No they were produced same time, yours date between Feb-May 1944
Actually while Browning did not produce a 9 mm revolver, Fabrique National did:
The "Barracuda" revolver was the only known attempt of famous company FN Herstal to produce a revolver. It was developed during early 1970s and offered for police sales in 1974. This weapon was developed as a versatile police sidearm, suitable for both European and American markets. At the time, US police market was dominated by .38 Special and .357 magnum revolvers, and European police market was mostly dominated by pocket-type automatic pistols with trends mowing toward 9x19 Luger caliber. Considering all that, as well as a very close similarity in bullet diameter of all those rounds, FN decided to produce a revolver that could interchangeably fire all those rounds. To change between "American" .357 / .38 calibers and "European" 9mm Luger / Parabellum, one must simply install an appropriate cylinder to a basic gun frame. As the 9mm ammo is rimless, to achieve reliable extraction and fast loading, 9mm rounds are loaded using special star-shaped flat clips that hold 6 rounds together. Rimmed revolver rounds are extracted using their rims, and can be loaded one by one or 6 rounds at once using speedloaders developed for Smith&Wesson K-frame revolvers. 9mm rounds also can be loaded one by one without clip, but extraction would be problematic.
FN revolvers were of good quality, but somewhat heavy and came to the market a bit too late to sell well. It is believed that FN manufactured several thousands of those guns during mid-seventies.
The FN "Barracuda" revolver is more or less traditional double-action revolver with swing-out cylinder. Firing pin is installed in the frame of the gun for better safety. It is of all-steel construction, with solid frame and heavy, lugged barrel. Only one barrel length of 3 inches (76mm) was available. Sights were fixed, with the front sight blade pinned to the barrel.
Barracuda revolvers were promoted as multi-caliber and thus ought to have two removable cylinders, one for .38 and .357 caliber rimmed revolver ammunition, and another for rimless 9x19 pistol ammunition. each cylinder was marked with its respective caliber. It must be noted, however, that 9mm cylinders seem to be quite rare, and most available guns are in .38 / .357 caliber only.
Google it for pics, looks like an Astra to me.
The "Barracuda" revolver was the only known attempt of famous company FN Herstal to produce a revolver. It was developed during early 1970s and offered for police sales in 1974. This weapon was developed as a versatile police sidearm, suitable for both European and American markets. At the time, US police market was dominated by .38 Special and .357 magnum revolvers, and European police market was mostly dominated by pocket-type automatic pistols with trends mowing toward 9x19 Luger caliber. Considering all that, as well as a very close similarity in bullet diameter of all those rounds, FN decided to produce a revolver that could interchangeably fire all those rounds. To change between "American" .357 / .38 calibers and "European" 9mm Luger / Parabellum, one must simply install an appropriate cylinder to a basic gun frame. As the 9mm ammo is rimless, to achieve reliable extraction and fast loading, 9mm rounds are loaded using special star-shaped flat clips that hold 6 rounds together. Rimmed revolver rounds are extracted using their rims, and can be loaded one by one or 6 rounds at once using speedloaders developed for Smith&Wesson K-frame revolvers. 9mm rounds also can be loaded one by one without clip, but extraction would be problematic.
FN revolvers were of good quality, but somewhat heavy and came to the market a bit too late to sell well. It is believed that FN manufactured several thousands of those guns during mid-seventies.
The FN "Barracuda" revolver is more or less traditional double-action revolver with swing-out cylinder. Firing pin is installed in the frame of the gun for better safety. It is of all-steel construction, with solid frame and heavy, lugged barrel. Only one barrel length of 3 inches (76mm) was available. Sights were fixed, with the front sight blade pinned to the barrel.
Barracuda revolvers were promoted as multi-caliber and thus ought to have two removable cylinders, one for .38 and .357 caliber rimmed revolver ammunition, and another for rimless 9x19 pistol ammunition. each cylinder was marked with its respective caliber. It must be noted, however, that 9mm cylinders seem to be quite rare, and most available guns are in .38 / .357 caliber only.
Google it for pics, looks like an Astra to me.
The stock alone would be worth that if original - probably much more, the pistols in VG condition should fetch the same but there really aren't enough selling to establish a consistent value IMO
OP - you have a nice original Inglis, a piece of Canadian history
