Who is buying a Type81?
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Ok, so $400 plus tax for a Chinese pistol...still somewhat proportional...I think most of the butt-hurt is from people who can't justify a NR x39 rifle that costs more than a cz858 was 4 years ago when the dollar was par with USD, and supply hadn't run out...
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But is he wrong...?
T97 was made at the same shop and is a bag of #### plagued with QC issues, so unless "polytech legend quality" means that.. yeah, he's quite wrong on that prediction lol.
For the Nork 305 being out of spec, I'd say have a look in the battle rifles forum at all the USGI builds done with surplus Israeli M14 parts... doesn't seem to be too much of a "spec" issue there.
No, unless ti is lying, which I doubt in this case because they had no reason to, the reason they finally got a batch produced is because they were made as part of a pla order for military type 81's.
So presumably apart from go-fast cuts and parts, we are getting a military type81.
What we don't know yet, is if a military type 81 lives up to the hype or not.
T97 is not a military rifle. It's similar in appearance to a type 95, but in a different calibre, jerry-rigged to take ar15 mags, different receiver, cheapened sights, etc. Made to a price point to maximize profits for the importer.
They type81 guns are semi versions of an unaltered military design that is "proven" in actual military use, just not "proven on cgn".
We will know more when real production rifles are being run by real Canadians.
ComradeVlad
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You have no idea who I am, what I've built and what I'm capable of lol
Except for the barrel, some of the guts, the finish, the wood, etc.... remember what happened to the VZ58 when they were made as semi? GREMLINS lol.
I agree nobody really knows what they are getting until they are in hand, being used by regular schmoes.
Speak for yourself I've never had a single stoppage from my m305 in over 1000 rounds and it shoots about 2.5 MOA with irons if I do my part. Not bad for a rifle I paid 500$ for. The M305 even has a chrome lined barrel.
The folding stocks on these are actually pretty damn good for a folder. I've shot the type 56 with the side folders and they are among the most comfortable and rigid folders out there. Far superior to the under folder.
I'd have to agree, my Type 84 (223 AK) had the side folder while my Type 56 had the under folder and I'd take the side folder every day vs the under folder, or for that matter versus any other folding stock I've shot - Galil, XCR, AR180, ACR - except perhaps the Swiss Arms, but then, it's a Swiss Arms. Maybe I just got a good one, maybe it just fit me perfectly, but it was superb - tight lock up, good length, excellent cheek weld, and comfortable to shoot.
Also a USGI M14 receiver had a life expectancy of 400,000 rounds 7.62NATO or something ridiculous like that. The T81 is 20,000 rounds of a smaller, lighter, lower pressure cartridge. Even if you knock off 200,000 rounds for the M305 being "Chinese" it's still 10x the life expectancy lol.
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The type 97 was changed significantly from the military specs. Calibre and magazine types are significant changes.
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Wood and a longer barrel are spec issues for you? You know the lmg version has a longer barrel right?
The cz858 were converted autos. The vz58 never had the gremlins and they were purpose built semi autos. If you want to use them as a comparison.
I was thinking I should have bought one when they had the bonus items, in-grained for a deal.
For awhile there was several Mosins 91/30 with the semin bayonet on EE at a premium price. Now some appear on EE which are selling for a lot less even at a loss.
Point was they came from the same factory the T81 does.
Whether the bed was #### because of the minor design changes, or because EMEI/Factory 26 is a high school shop class now, who knows. They still #### the bed.
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