Rfb question for owners - optics?

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Question for current rfb owners: what optics are you currently running, with what mount options and why? What have tried that didn't work out, and what made you migrate to your current setup?

I have an rfb en route and would rather buy right the first time when it comes to a sighting solution.

Thanks.
 
Ive got a Vortex spitfire 3x on mine. Cross hairs sit approx 1 3/4" higher than top rail, 3 1/4" above bore. I don't have to press my cheek onto the rifle with any amount of force to use it, very comfortable.

Spitfire is meant for 5.56 though, so ballistic drop reticle isnt bang on. Still works nice for quick shots up to 150 yards
 
I had a vortex razor 1-4 on mine when I had it, it worked very well, but if I was buying a scope for it again it would be a sightron
1-7x24. That being said I had a 3-9x42 Redfield on it and it worked well too. For a mount I had a vortex cm-203 qd bobro. But what are your plans for this rifle? Hunting, target, etc? I shot mine at 600 yards with the 3-9, would have been pretty tough with the 1-4.
 
Uisge said:
I had a vortex razor 1-4 on mine when I had it, it worked very well, but if I was buying a scope for it again it would be a sightron
1-7x24. That being said I had a 3-9x42 Redfield on it and it worked well too. For a mount I had a vortex cm-203 qd bobro. But what are your plans for this rifle? Hunting, target, etc? I shot mine at 600 yards with the 3-9, would have been pretty tough with the 1-4.
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Honestly it's unlikely to be used past 200 yards where I will be using it.

So I don't need highagnification. I might even be able to get away with a red dot if the dot is not too large. Dunno. Mulling over my options.

The last rfb I had, years ago, was a gem1 with a vortex viper PST on it. It was ok, but the vortex scope had to be replaced under warranty. It didn't seem great.
 
I've run a couple different scopes on mine. The current setup is an old Bauch & Lombe 2-10, in a Burris PEPR mount. Crank it down to 2X for the bush, and up to 10X when you need that 200 yard shot across the field. The Burris seems to to be just the right height for the scope.
 
I like the PEPR, just with is didn;t have rail segments on top :(

The Warne Skell Gen2 might be a better mount for me, if I go traditional scope.

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Burris PEPR is essential. So is the polymer cover that snaps on top of the stock to make it far more comfortable. Forget who makes it but it transforms shooting comfort. 1.5 - 5 x Falcon menace scope works well. For reasons that make mo sense to me my rfb is very accurate with moa groups
 
So what do you guys think of the RRA mount vs. the PEPR or Warne? I assume they are about the same height. Questar has the RRA for $106 which is pretty cheap.

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The PEPR is about $50 more and looks to be finished a little nicer. It can be had with QD levers, but I don't really plan on removing the scope as it's the only sight on the RFB.

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55recce said:
Burris PEPR is essential. So is the polymer cover that snaps on top of the stock to make it far more comfortable. Forget who makes it but it transforms shooting comfort. 1.5 - 5 x Falcon menace scope works well. For reasons that make mo sense to me my rfb is very accurate with moa groups
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Agree with the plastic cheek rest, much better with it.

MOA groups? sorry, never seen an RFB do better than 1.5 moa and that was with handloads and nothing made them any better. There have been numerous reports from others that back what I found. Fluking a single 1 moa group from a day of shooting does not make it a 1 moa gun. Not calling you a liar, maybe you got the unicorn but I doubt that it actually shoots as well as you claim.

Any mount that is made for an AR will work well on the RFB and if I was going to buy another one I would put a Sightron 1-7 on it.
 
I run an ADM scout mount on mine with the vortex PST 1-4.5, NPR reticle. Not a fan of screws / nuts sticking out on the side especially with a side mounted charging handle. I shoot it out to 600m on man sized steel with all kinds of cheap Norinco steel cased stuff. The rifle is more accurate than people give it credit... guess I got a unicorn too.

Reminds me of when Tactical Teacher (formerly Hungry) won the nationals with his tuned Norinco M305 outshooting those running guns SEVEN TIMES more expensive than the obviously inaccurate Norinco. People gonna hate .. especially the brand name crowd. Enjoy the RFB!
 
Boomer686 said:
I run an ADM scout mount on mine with the vortex PST 1-4.5, NPR reticle. Not a fan of screws / nuts sticking out on the side especially with a side mounted charging handle. I shoot it out to 600m on man sized steel with all kinds of cheap Norinco steel cased stuff. The rifle is more accurate than people give it credit... guess I got a unicorn too.

Reminds me of when Tactical Teacher (formerly Hungry) won the nationals with his tuned Norinco M305 outshooting those running guns SEVEN TIMES more expensive than the obviously inaccurate Norinco. People gonna hate .. especially the brand name crowd. Enjoy the RFB!
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I don't think anyone including myself has said it is not accurate, just that it's not a 1 moa shooter. If someone was to buy one with the expectations of it shooting 1 moa based on a couple guys comments saying their rifle is an moa shooter then there is a pretty good chance that a new owner will be disappointed, If you buy it understanding that it's plenty accurate enough for real world shooting and that it's best characteristics are that it's short and maneuverable then there is a much better chance the person will be satisfied and enjoy their rifle for it's strengths instead of it's weakness. Man size at 600M is great shooting but it doesn't make it a 1 moa rifle.
The RFB is actually one of the few black rifles I've taken hunting with me that I actually enjoyed carrying all day, the short length make the weight easy to manage and it travels great on a sling across your back on a quad with no long barrel hanging out to get caught on branches.
 
cr5 said:
I don't think anyone including myself has said it is not accurate, just that it's not a 1 moa shooter. If someone was to buy one with the expectations of it shooting 1 moa based on a couple guys comments saying their rifle is an moa shooter then there is a pretty good chance that a new owner will be disappointed, If you buy it understanding that it's plenty accurate enough for real world shooting and that it's best characteristics are that it's short and maneuverable then there is a much better chance the person will be satisfied and enjoy their rifle for it's strengths instead of it's weakness. Man size at 600M is great shooting but it doesn't make it a 1 moa rifle.
The RFB is actually one of the few black rifles I've taken hunting with me that I actually enjoyed carrying all day, the short length make the weight easy to manage and it travels great on a sling across your back on a quad with no long barrel hanging out to get caught on branches.
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Fair enough. I too did not mean it is to be classed as a precision rig: it's capable of holding its own in out of the box accuracy with other rifles of the same class. The point I made about the norinco is that there are gems out there to be found if you dig for them and they don't necessarily always have to be expensive or from big brand names. No doubt it was tuned for competition and shot better than most other M305's out of the box but at the end of the day he had a winning class rifle for a fraction of the cost.
 
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Fair enough. I too did not mean it is to be classed as a precision rig: it's capable of holding its own in out of the box accuracy with other rifles of the same class. The point I made about the norinco is that there are gems out there to be found if you dig for them and they don't necessarily always have to be expensive or from big brand names. No doubt it was tuned for competition and shot better than most other M305's out of the box but at the end of the day he had a winning class rifle for a fraction of the cost.
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Fully agree, The RFB is just as accurate as most other rifles in the 308 semi auto class and from what I've seen it's just as accurate as the 102 and more reliable as well.

Comparing a 305 owned by Barney is hardly a fair comparison since he probably knows every trick there is to accurizing the M14 platform and knows how to do it right. Still an amazing accomplishment considering the competition he was up against. I'm hoping he comes back to Northern Alberta for another course this summer, I had a great time at one of his CQB courses and would love to take more training from him.
 
Well just telling you what mine does. Can't explain why it is so good and have no reason/need to make up stories.... (and BTW I have been shooting for more than 50 years in civilian life and military so do claim to vaguely know what I am talking about......
 
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