Any 10GA shooters out there??

Just curious, I have nothing against the 10 gauge. But would like to know why majority of people say they Had a 10 gauge but ended up selling it? Why does the 3.5" 12 ga out sell the 10ga 10 to 1? I believe there is only on 10 gouge still in production today, the Browning gold. But really not sure if it's still made this year or not. I here a few people on here talking about how it's the best waterfowl gun out there but rarely see someone using it. Shouldn't a gun that's so effective on waterfowl be more popular today?
 
Just curious, I have nothing against the 10 gauge. But would like to know why majority of people say they Had a 10 gauge but ended up selling it? Why does the 3.5" 12 ga out sell the 10ga 10 to 1? I believe there is only on 10 gouge still in production today, the Browning gold. But really not sure if it's still made this year or not. I here a few people on here talking about how it's the best waterfowl gun out there but rarely see someone using it. Shouldn't a gun that's so effective on waterfowl be more popular today?

because most people these days don't do the leg work of knowledge to learn,

its easier to listen to old wives tales or old coffee shop stories , and make up their opinions on stories and tales
and most of the people now a days want one gun that works for shooting clays, or upland birds, or waterfowl , an all in one gun, and most people of this day and age a cheap skates , and when they shoot a 12 gauge 3 1/2 inch they turn their shoulders into mush and that gives them a real reason to whine about something , which most people of this era like to do
but if you want one gun for geese and that's all you want it for the 10 gauge is still king
and if you don't believe me take a chance go out buy one, try it
if its not for you then no problem you will get yer money back easily,
what the heck its only money ,
 
Just curious, I have nothing against the 10 gauge. But would like to know why majority of people say they Had a 10 gauge but ended up selling it? Why does the 3.5" 12 ga out sell the 10ga 10 to 1? I believe there is only on 10 gouge still in production today, the Browning gold. But really not sure if it's still made this year or not. I here a few people on here talking about how it's the best waterfowl gun out there but rarely see someone using it. Shouldn't a gun that's so effective on waterfowl be more popular today?

Actually pretty simple. 10ga ammo is hard to find and when one does it is expensive so reloading is usually a must of you shoot any volume of shells. 12ga is everywhere and you can usually find it priced to your budget
Also most only have one waterfowl gun that they also use for everything else from upland to targets so the right 3 1/2' 12 ga will do it all. 10ga cannot do that
For me I also find my 10ga will rip ducks apart over decoys under 30/35 yards so I use my 12ga 3 1/2 if I am duck hunting fields and the 10ga for pass shooting ducks, geese and coyotes

Cheers
 
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its easier to listen to old wives tales or old coffee shop stories , and make up their opinions on stories and tales
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That’s my point! This thread is full of them. 80 yard goose kills after reloading....75 yd turkey shots....come on dude.

My Beretta wasn’t cheap and my shoulder isn’t mush. I’ve never felt I needed more gun. Just my point of view.

I agree if goose was my only game, I’d look hard at the 10ga.
 
That’s my point! This thread is full of them. 80 yard goose kills after reloading....75 yd turkey shots....come on dude.

My Beretta wasn’t cheap and my shoulder isn’t mush. I’ve never felt I needed more gun. Just my point of view.

I agree if goose was my only game, I’d look hard at the 10ga.

You have never used a 10ga waterfowl hunting or shared a blind with someone that could shoot one have you. Be honest
Cheers
 
That’s my point! This thread is full of them. 80 yard goose kills after reloading....75 yd turkey shots....come on dude.

My Beretta wasn’t cheap and my shoulder isn’t mush. I’ve never felt I needed more gun. Just my point of view.

I agree if goose was my only game, I’d look hard at the 10ga.

In the right hands the 10ga is an 75 yard goose smasher all day long, in the right hands. Give it to the average guy who cannot centre a bird in the pattern except on his very best days and its no more effective than any other shotgun he’d use. It’s also much more versatile than just a goose gun. Unless you have ever used or seen one in use on a controlled shotgun deer hunt pushing 1.25 - 1.5oz slugs or 18-00 buckshot loads don’t ever think a 3.5” 12 ga is anywhere near it’s equal! Unfortunately with that performance comes weight which is not nice for carrying or tromping around thats for sure but even so when it roars it’s king. Only reason I sold mine is I just don’t hunt much any more and there was too many guns in the safe gathering dust so I converted them into cash for other things. My first Gold 10 was still one of my favorite guns of all I have ever owned. It’s a Super X-1 on steroids!! Who wouldn’t love that?! ;)
 
You have never used a 10ga waterfowl hunting or shared a blind with someone that could shoot one have you. Be honest
Cheers
Got me there 3macs. I never shared a blind with a guy. A friends late father shot one though and I know he shot a ton of geese at very long ranges and was known as a heck of a waterfowler. But all those stories were from “back in the day”. His son shoots same gun as me (Extrema) and he would make his daddy proud.

I think your replies and explanations are the most realistic and I see what you are saying, I just don’t think the 3.5” 12ga is as far off the mark as some people suggest.

Good on you for calling me out. I respectfully submit that my anecdotal stories are no less legitimate than other guys stories.
 
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Got me there 3macs. I never shared a blind with a guy. A friends late father shot one though and I know he shot a ton of geese at very long ranges and was known as a heck of a waterfowler. But all those stories were from “back in the day”. His son shoots same gun as me (Extrema) and he would make his daddy proud.

I think your replies and explanations are the most realistic and I see what you are saying, I just don’t think the 3.5” 12ga is as far off the mark as some people suggest.

Good on you for calling me out. I respectfully submit that my anecdotal stories are no less legitimate that other guys stories.

Ok for starters I am not an expert. I do however reload them all 10ga and 3" and 3 1/2 12ga some as far back as the good old lead days and shot a lot of skeet and a fair amount of trap over the years. Also shot a ton of paper, tried a lot of different recipes and bought a ton of different choke tubes

Lets talk 3 1/2 12ga. I bought a mossy 835 when the 3 1/2 first came out so been around them a while. The thing I called it the mule since it beat the crap out of me and I sold it

I still own however eight in 12ga 3 1/2


Now I also still own four in 10ga


YES I love shotguns:)

I pattern my steel loads at 50 yards for my 10ga and if I am on there is no 12ga 3 1/2 I own will outshine my 10ga's from 50yards and beyond
In the lead days 75 yards were not impossible in fact common with copper plated buffed BB nor are they today when I reload bismuth or high speed T steel with the right chokes. I am not going to say I look for 75 yard shots but if I have to make them I normally can even with steel shot and it is usually my third shot. I usually load the gun with BB, then BBB then T if we know the shots could be long

Where you hunt with your set up yes maybe a 10ga is not required but here with the pass shooting it surely makes a difference. You have to use one or see one in the right hands before you will say WOW. I know I did many years ago and never looked back
Some may say not a big difference but owning both 3 1/2 12's and 10's I don't agree especially the 4 golds 2 of each which was the best comparison I could have had IMO and all are long barrels
Cheers
 
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Your passion reminds me of when I get going over the 16ga...LOL

Just had one of those moments a few weeks back on Pelee Isl after i stoned a fast rooster at a long way off after a bunch of 12ga misses. “What are you shooting?” Was the refrain...

I admit it was mostly the Indian and luck, not the arrow.
 
In the right hands the 10ga is an 75 yard goose smasher all day long, in the right hands. Give it to the average guy who cannot centre a bird in the pattern except on his very best days and its no more effective than any other shotgun he’d use. It’s also much more versatile than just a goose gun. Unless you have ever used or seen one in use on a controlled shotgun deer hunt pushing 1.25 - 1.5oz slugs or 18-00 buckshot loads don’t ever think a 3.5” 12 ga is anywhere near it’s equal! Unfortunately with that performance comes weight which is not nice for carrying or tromping around thats for sure but even so when it roars it’s king. Only reason I sold mine is I just don’t hunt much any more and there was too many guns in the safe gathering dust so I converted them into cash for other things. My first Gold 10 was still one of my favorite guns of all I have ever owned. It’s a Super X-1 on steroids!! Who wouldn’t love that?! ;)

Both of my golds in 10ga have the early steel receivers and like you say are just big super x1's IMO
They will be passed on not sold
Cheers
 
Your passion reminds me of when I get going over the 16ga...LOL

Just had one of those moments a few weeks back on Pelee Isl after i stoned a fast rooster at a long way off after a bunch of 12ga misses. “What are you shooting?” Was the refrain...

I admit it was mostly the Indian and luck, not the arrow.

Don't go there :) 16ga is my second favorite shotgun next to my favorite the 28ga. Saved a few of both LOL

For reloading I have the usual mec jr and sizemaster but also a MEC 16ga 9000g progressive press which many don't even know mec made. That should say how many 16ga I reload :) Got all excited this spring when I found a guy selling off 5000 AA and 1000 Activ wads & hulls in 16ga
Cheers
 
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Just curious, I have nothing against the 10 gauge. But would like to know why majority of people say they Had a 10 gauge but ended up selling it? Why does the 3.5" 12 ga out sell the 10ga 10 to 1? I believe there is only on 10 gouge still in production today, the Browning gold. But really not sure if it's still made this year or not. I here a few people on here talking about how it's the best waterfowl gun out there but rarely see someone using it. Shouldn't a gun that's so effective on waterfowl be more popular today?


fishslinger, I will respond to your questions best I can, these are my opinions yours may differ.

But would like to know why majority of people say they Had a 10 gauge but ended up selling it?
It is misleading to say the majority said that they had a 10ga and sold it, some said that they sold it others said that they sold it and regret selling it but most that responded own a 10 ga. and some own more than one including myself. The thread is actually titled Any 10ga shooters out there? so it makes sense that most respondents here own a 10ga., why would you respond otherwise! I personally know 2 that sold their 10's but they no longer hunt geese

Why does the 3.5" 12 ga out sell the 10ga 10 to 1?
The 12 ga is the most popular gauge on the market if one wants a gun that does many things, kind of the 30-06 of gauges. A jack of all trades master of none. The 12 outsells all the other gauges combined.

Shouldn't a gun that's so effective on waterfowl be more popular today?
The 10ga is a specialty item that suits very specific needs, basically shooting Geese or pass shooting northern ducks at long ranges with large steel shot. Not a gun for shooting over decoys at short range.
Specialty items do not sell in large enough numbers to be economically feasible for a long time, weather we are speaking about shotguns or rifles, some very effective calibers and firearms were
discontinued because they did not sell in large enough numbers to keep them in production. I use or have used the 10, 12, 16, 20 and 410, they all have their place in my view. I have shot decoyed ducks with a 16 and a 20 and never felt under gunned it was all I needed for some situations and enjoyed the fast handling characteristic of these smaller guns/guages.

I will leave you with this thought, Think about where the 12 ga has gone over the years, it started as a 2.5" then became 2.75" then 3" and now 3.5" !!!
Ask why has this happened? The 2.75" killed millions of game/waterfowl over the years so why bring on a 3"? Public demand, for longer range shooting that is why (basically larger payloads at higher speeds).
Finally we get to the 3.5", the ultimate Kool Aid! A response to the steel shot advantage that the 10 gauge had when loading large pellets to maximize the energy requirements of the lighter steel pellets, only two companies could respond to this requirement with 10 gauges, Remington and Browning, Remington saw the writing on the wall and acquired the Mag10 from Ithaca instead of developing their own 10ga semi and Browning chambered their BPS Pump in 10ga and later developed their own semi know as the Gold 10 an overgrown SX1, everybody else got shut out so the industry responded by increasing the 12 ga length in order to compete with the 10, and everybody adapted their 3" guns to 3.5 with little R&D and here we are today, ever wonder why 3.5 " 12's pound the crap out of you and don't pattern well! because they still weigh the same as their 3" brothers, and they never increased the bore size when they increased the payload, they are basically the same guns.
The alternative to the 3.5" 12 is to develop a 10ga to handle the larger shot none of the other manufacturers wanted that. I like the 12 it has it's place like the other gauges and it is very versatile but when it comes to large pellets for Waterfowl it is not a 10.
Take a 1 ounce and load it into a 410ga,then a 28, 20, 16, 12 and finally a 10, every time you increase the bore you shorten the stack in the shell, this is very good, now increase the pellet size until it becomes a problem you ill see that every gauge has it's limitations and when we are talking large pellets for large birds there is only one gauge that has this ultimate versatility the 10ga, you see the 12 was already at it's max when it was asked to take on the heavier loads of the 3.5 hence the longer stack and higher operating pressures, not good !! The 10 can maintain a good killing pattern with large pellets where the smaller guages fail, those few thousands in diameter make a huge difference on the pattern board and on the shot string.
I talk too much !
BB
 
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fishslinger, I will respond to your questions best I can, these are my opinions yours may differ.

But would like to know why majority of people say they Had a 10 gauge but ended up selling it?
It is misleading to say the majority said that they had a 10ga and sold it, some said that they sold it others said that they sold it and regret selling it but most that responded own a 10 ga. and some own more than one including myself. The thread is actually titled Any 10ga shooters out there? so it makes sense that most respondents here own a 10ga., why would you respond otherwise! I personally know 2 that sold their 10's but they no longer hunt geese

Why does the 3.5" 12 ga out sell the 10ga 10 to 1?
The 12 ga is the most popular gauge on the market if one wants a gun that does many things, kind of the 30-06 of gauges. A jack of all trades master of none. The 12 outsells all the other gauges combined.

Shouldn't a gun that's so effective on waterfowl be more popular today?
The 10ga is a specialty item that suits very specific needs, basically shooting Geese or pass shooting northern ducks at long ranges with large steel shot. Not a gun for shooting over decoys at short range.
Specialty items do not sell in large enough numbers to be economically feasible for a long time, weather we are speaking about shotguns or rifles, some very effective calibers and firearms were
discontinued because they did not sell in large enough numbers to keep them in production. I use or have used the 10, 12, 16, 20 and 410, they all have their place in my view. I have shot decoyed ducks with a 16 and a 20 and never felt under gunned it was all I needed for some situations and enjoyed the fast handling characteristic of these smaller guns/guages.

I will leave you with this thought, Think about where the 12 ga has gone over the years, it started as a 2.5" then became 2.75" then 3" and now 3.5" !!!
Ask why has this happened? The 2.75" killed millions of game/waterfowl over the years so why bring on a 3"? Public demand, for longer range shooting that is why (basically larger payloads at higher speeds).
Finally we get to the 3.5", the ultimate Kool Aid! A response to the steel shot advantage that the 10 gauge had when loading large pellets to maximize the energy requirements of the lighter steel pellets, only two companies could respond to this requirement with 10 gauges, Remington and Browning, Remington saw the writing on the wall and acquired the Mag10 from Ithaca instead of developing their own 10ga semi and Browning chambered their BPS Pump in 10ga and later developed their own semi know as the Gold 10 an overgrown SX1, everybody else got shut out so the industry responded by increasing the 12 ga length in order to compete with the 10, and everybody adapted their 3" guns to 3.5 with little R&D and here we are today, ever wonder why 3.5 " 12's pound the crap out of you and don't pattern well! because they still weigh the same as their 3" brothers, and they never increased the bore size when they increased the payload, they are basically the same guns.
The alternative to the 3.5" 12 is to develop a 10ga to handle the larger shot none of the other manufacturers wanted that. I like the 12 it has it's place like the other gauges and it is very versatile but when it comes to large pellets for Waterfowl it is not a 10.
Take a 1 ounce and load it into a 410ga,then a 28, 20, 16, 12 and finally a 10, every time you increase the bore you shorten the stack in the shell, this is very good, now increase the pellet size until it becomes a problem you ill see that every gauge has it's limitations and when we are talking large pellets for large birds there is only one gauge that has this ultimate versatility the 10ga, you see the 12 was already at it's max when it was asked to take on the heavier loads of the 3.5 hence the longer stack and higher operating pressures, not good !! The 10 can maintain a good killing pattern with large pellets where the smaller guages fail, those few thousands in diameter make a huge difference on the pattern board and on the shot string.
I talk too much !
BB
well said
and very well explained
I tip my hat to you sir
I wish I was as good at explaining this matter as you just did
Thank you very much
 
I traded my slug 870 a few years ago for a SP 10, and have no regrets about it. Got both barrels and a patternmaster choke. Have killed 2 deer with it (the slugs do a wonderful job) and got a turkey this past spring. I don't get to go waterfowl as much with my job (harvest season gets in the way) but I like it for goose hunting. All in all it does a great job when I do my part.
 
Minshall, Lucky you if you got a slug barrel they are hard to find, most that got a slug barrel got it in a combo set since buying the barrel on it's own was an expensive extra. I just bought one I know !
Did you use the Federal slugs for your deer?
Have you tried the Buckshot loads?
Did you use the slug barrel for Turkey and what load?
Cheers
BB
 
Of my four 10ga semi's this one is my favorite
Cheers
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