what would you do with a 275y range?

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Good evening nutters

Im a long range shooting enthousiast and have occasionnal access to a 500y shooting range at my friend's farm. Tons of fun but not always accessible

As of this year, I purchased a land and worked a bit to create a 275 range where I can shoot prone on either my steel gong of paper. It is surrounded by trees so there is not much wind.

It will require quite a bit of work to make this range longer but I will eventually do it.

In the meantime, do you have any particular drills or scenario you would do to improve my shooting (other then dry fire) and have fun despite the shortish range? I may be able to do a bit of positional shooting but im looking at drills to improve my target engagement, hits and miss and reading my shots and ballistics.
 
Well any time behind the trigger is well spent if you focus on the fundamentals. That being said, in the long range world 275 is rather close. Id say make some smaller targets to aim at and improve your shot groupings. Or work on load development.
 
Get a really good heavy barrel 22 that mimics your favorite centerfire. My personal favorite is the BRNO Model 4.
Or try your regular centerfire in positions other than prone. Even 100 yards standing can be a challenge if you need one.
 
Look into a heart attack target. Small gong suspended behind a larger gong with a hole in the center. This way if you "miss" the hole, you can still see where your shot went.
 
Good suggestions

Alpheus: do you have a link to that actual setup? Friend of mine can make gongs, I'd just need to figure out how to build the rack and attachment points

Hank44: whats the dots drill?
 
My local range tops out at 300 yds. I bought some small 3" ar500 gongs and I hang them with strips of conveyor belt. Can even pan back and forth between two of them doing quick shots.
 
Scale your targets down (2 moa or so for positional, 1 or less for prone, build some props to shoot off, you can do quite a bit with a shortish range. If you only have a single gong, get a few more and put them at all different ranges and don't line them up like a troop line so that you have to pan to find them. A kyl (know your limits) rack is a nice thing to have as well. 4-5 swinger gongs on the same stand in decreasing sizes. Learn to spot your impacts so you can adjust to hit the smallest ones (like 1/2 moa)
 
Sounds good guys

Now I need to get some more gongs but most importantly need to figure out how to build a rack and attach them to it
 
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Scale your targets down (2 moa or so for positional, 1 or less for prone, build some props to shoot off, you can do quite a bit with a shortish range. If you only have a single gong, get a few more and put them at all different ranges and don't line them up like a troop line so that you have to pan to find them. A kyl (know your limits) rack is a nice thing to have as well. 4-5 swinger gongs on the same stand in decreasing sizes. Learn to spot your impacts so you can adjust to hit the smallest ones (like 1/2 moa)
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This is what I was going to suggest. Challenge yourself to be able to find the targets quickly from a position (other than prone).
 
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¼ to ½ moa steel at odd ranges.
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Unreasonably small. If you want a tiny target, get a heart attack steel gong from Range Rabbit. I have 2, with a 2.5" and a 3" gong suspended behind a hole in a 6" gong. Now you have your small target at 2/300m and a way to spot your misses.
 
VinceMarksman said:
Good evening nutters

Im a long range shooting enthousiast and have occasionnal access to a 500y shooting range at my friend's farm. Tons of fun but not always accessible

As of this year, I purchased a land and worked a bit to create a 275 range where I can shoot prone on either my steel gong of paper. It is surrounded by trees so there is not much wind.

It will require quite a bit of work to make this range longer but I will eventually do it.

In the meantime, do you have any particular drills or scenario you would do to improve my shooting (other then dry fire) and have fun despite the shortish range? I may be able to do a bit of positional shooting but im looking at drills to improve my target engagement, hits and miss and reading my shots and ballistics.
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Distance shooting is all about wind. At your distance you can focus on fundamentals. Position, breathing, trigger.

Make your targets smaller to keep a challenge and work on PRS style positions. Improvisation and less than ideal makeshift barriers.

You can also try fun stuff like jogging on the spot, then when an alarm beeps you drop to prone and have 5 seconds to shoot.

If you got a friend, you can also have them setup targets at an unknown distance.
 
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Unreasonably small. If you want a tiny target, get a heart attack steel gong from Range Rabbit. I have 2, with a 2.5" and a 3" gong suspended behind a hole in a 6" gong. Now you have your small target at 2/300m and a way to spot your misses.
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Have to agree.

I am sure some matches have targets like these but the success rate is unreasonably small and only the absolute best shooters would be making hits (and probably not even all of them). The precisionrifleblog has a good article about the most popular matches and there is a good discussion about target size and match difficulty.

At the last SAPRL match, and clearly these are not even close to being the end all be all of matches, the average score was in the 50% range and most targets were bumping 1.5-2.0MOA.

Guys shooting .25 and .50 minute targets all the time are the same as the fisherman catching fish the size of toddlers...
 
^ He is absolutely right. When I manage to keep it at 1 moa for 10 rounds, that's a really good day. In a match your shots have to be both accurate AND precise. Then comes the wind. I would not go smaller than 1 moa steel for my smallest target.
 
VinceMarksman said:
Good evening nutters

Im a long range shooting enthousiast and have occasionnal access to a 500y shooting range at my friend's farm. Tons of fun but not always accessible

As of this year, I purchased a land and worked a bit to create a 275 range where I can shoot prone on either my steel gong of paper. It is surrounded by trees so there is not much wind.

It will require quite a bit of work to make this range longer but I will eventually do it.

In the meantime, do you have any particular drills or scenario you would do to improve my shooting (other then dry fire) and have fun despite the shortish range? I may be able to do a bit of positional shooting but im looking at drills to improve my target engagement, hits and miss and reading my shots and ballistics.
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With an accurate rifle and ammo combo, shooting MOA at 275 yards is.... Zzzzzzzzzzz, boring.

Practice shooting in the worst weather conditions: Rain, freezing rain, high winds and snowy days. It's what I did when I was precision shoot at my club's 300 yard range.

Take it a step up and start at 175 yards, run back to 275 yards and get your heart rate up, drop to prone and start a timer and shoot 5 shots and try for MOA at 275 yards. We did similar drills when I was invited up to CFB Borden to shoot their 900M range with my 308 Rem700.
 
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Haha. Gotta agree with this. I love shooting in bad weather because it tests you and gear in totally different ways.
 
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