Canadian made "black" rifle

Journeyman.ca said:
Adjustable gas piston, semi-auto, caliber convertible-quick barrel change, single optic on a fixed chassis, take down, STANAG/pistol mag fed, Geissele adjustable trigger with CARBON FIBRE EVERYTHING. With a an eye to the World market, NOT just the Canadian market. The rifles sold overseas could subsidize the cost of the rifles sold in Canada and therefore be offered to Canadians at a reduced rate...
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You just described my ACR to a tee. Doesn't sound like a better firearm, and doubt it can be produced cheaper in Canada.
 
TrendyRendy said:
Personally I agree with this. A VEPR, PSL, SVD kind of rifle that doesn't resemble any AK like internals. I would be all over that.
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Not to get off track, but it triggers me every time I see a reference to it - the SVD is totally unrelated to the AK and has absolutely nothing in common with it internally (or externally, really, other than an extremely vague visual resemblance).
 
cr5 said:
I understand wanting a non-polymer lower, just making a point in case you are one of the guys who read that the polymer lower on the 180 is a ticking time bomb that is about to fail any second now. Plenty of modern rifles use polymer extensively in their construction and it is not a problem.
I prefer aluminum as well but I carry and shoot my 180B without any worry about it failing at the hinge-pin.

I'd only be guessing on a timeline for the upper but as far as I know the lower has only been in the works for a year or two, the upper should be easier since it's not the serialized part. My guess would be that once they have a lower in production and selling the upper will be a year behind it hopefully making it three options at that time (upper/lower/full rifle).

Yes, society has been brainwashed to think that unless a car is fast it's no good. This is why even minivan advertising always mentions it has 300+ horse and they come with 18 inch rims with low profile tires. Ya, lots of minivan racing out there on the streets, it's becoming a real problem. All that crap does is reduce reliability and increase operating costs now that tires cost twice as much just to look cooler.
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no racing but they are used in chases
 
FWIW the upper is an order of magnitude more difficult than the lower. Each major part of the upper is roughly the same work as the lower.
 
Just a quick rough primer on gun IP:

copyright - used for writings and art mostly, books, poetry, paintings, film, music, etc
trademark - for name brands; coke, mcdonalds, nike swoosh, etc
utility patent - a new idea on how something works
design patent - a unique shape or "look" of a more common product
trade dress - The easily recognized unque look of a product. think MP5. mostly common law in the US
 
CanAm said:
Just a quick rough primer on gun IP:

copyright - used for writings and art mostly, books, poetry, paintings, film, music, etc
trademark - for name brands; coke, mcdonalds, nike swoosh, etc
utility patent - a new idea on how something works
design patent - a unique shape or "look" of a more common product
trade dress - The easily recognized unque look of a product. think MP5. mostly common law in the US
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Does this mean a possible C+A c10a rifle!?!?!??!
 
Just throwing this out there...not sure if it was mentioned, but how hard would it be to make a lower receiver for an SKS similar to the Pearce Armoury ILS chassis? Move the fire controls closer to the mag, make it lock up the to receiver the same way any other chassis/mag adapter does, and voila, cheap black rifle...
 
cranswick said:
Just throwing this out there...not sure if it was mentioned, but how hard would it be to make a lower receiver for an SKS similar to the Pearce Armoury ILS chassis? Move the fire controls closer to the mag, make it lock up the to receiver the same way any other chassis/mag adapter does, and voila, cheap black rifle...
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The SKS chassis market is abit over crowned already, Kodiak defense has the Skorpion and the SKS-KD, North Sylva was working on a SKS-47 chassis as well.
 
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