Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates

rifleman762 said:
Everybody just calm down about the price. The price will drop eventually. Early adopters get to pay extra, just like the iPhone nerds. Gun nerds are the same way. Within a year of this rifle being on the market, someone else will make a copycat at a lower price because they didn't have the R&D expense plus time spent getting the RCMP to fondle it. I don't always agree with knock-offs but such is life. Maccabee has max 12 months to recoup R&D costs; that's why it's $1000 for the receiver set. After the competition fires up, they will have to price it at a level that only covers ongoing production costs. This is especially true for a design that uses readily available internal parts. It might even be less than a year that we see knockoffs.
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One can only hope that this is the case.
 
Seems to be pretty congruent with the price of other NR examples on the market. Be it the modern varmint/sporter, BCL 102, etc. I feel like if they want costs down production would have to go off shore, which I don’t want personally. What I want is all of our Canadian competitors in this market to get together and make a “super rifle” using all the best points of their designs kind of like the ACR. But I’m a bit of a dreamer I guess. Imagine if these guys combined their powers, be it production volume, design, etc. I’d use that rifle on bigfoot hunting excursions riding my unicorn! For now I’m just gradually trying to buy as many of these Canadian designs as I can afford to support those company’s giving us what we have been asking for since the government told us we couldn’t be trusted with the other options.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Of which $250.00 of that $750.00 price quoted is the cost to modify the upper so it is compatible with our lower.
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I’d pay 1000 bucks for a stripped modern varmint upper/lower, lol even 1250 if the timney had to come installed. And on that note I wonder if our fellow Canadians at Trigger Tech would have any interest in a single pin trigger set up for your wonderful rifles.
 
LOL, once again CGN'er has an unrealistic grasp of the size the Canadian firearms market, even worse understanding of the manufacturing and how to run business.
 
Kjm1971 said:
There is no such thing as 4140 aluminum. 4140 is a steel alloy.
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LOL you got me .... a typo and brain fart i assure you hehe i meant 7075 and we do use some 6061.

as for machining costs and running multi access cnc , I still don't buy into the price tag here but that's okay. It's not a contest to see who can disagree with me and try to analyze how I base my thoughts on this. I've got enough experience to comment on costs , whether folks believe that or not is not important to me.
If i was the owner of this company, sitting on the holy grail of Non restricted semi autos that are made in canada.... I would be looking at "how can i get my rifle into the hands of every active sports shooter in the country?". This kind of pricing on stripped upper/lower is not the way to get there.

anyhow, I'm out and gonna leave this thread alone haha
 
Uisge said:
I’d pay 1000 bucks for a stripped modern varmint upper/lower, lol even 1250 if the timney had to come installed. And on that note I wonder if our fellow Canadians at Trigger Tech would have any interest in a single pin trigger set up for your wonderful rifles.
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The triggers themselves are NOT single pin triggers. They are standard Timney drop in trigger packs. It is the lower receiver ONLY that takes one pin (nothing to do with trigger design) with an additional part designed to position the trigger. This part WILL NOT fit the shape of the Trigger Tech housing. Therefore not compatible. There is NOTHING Trigger Tech can do to make their trigger function in a MV/MH rifle. I actually prefer the TT myself but am more than happy with the Timney trigger.
 
45ACPKING said:
....If i was the owner of this company, sitting on the holy grail of Non restricted semi autos that are made in canada.... I would be looking at "how can i get my rifle into the hands of every active sports shooter in the country?". This kind of pricing on stripped upper/lower is not the way to get there.
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I have to say that I agree with you. If they priced it a little bit less everyone would own one or two or possibly even three of these. At the current price I may be in for one, only because I think it's important to support Canadian made product, but certainly not any more than one.
 
jiffx2781 said:
The triggers themselves are NOT single pin triggers. They are standard Timney drop in trigger packs. It is the lower receiver ONLY that takes one pin (nothing to do with trigger design) with an additional part designed to position the trigger. This part WILL NOT fit the shape of the Trigger Tech housing. Therefore not compatible. There is NOTHING Trigger Tech can do to make their trigger function in a MV/MH rifle. I actually prefer the TT myself but am more than happy with the Timney trigger.
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I have both, they are both so good as to be almost indistinguishable, but I love the Canadian stuff more. I’m Canadian, TT is Canadian, ATRS is canadian, we should all hook up lol. Don’t mind me, hurt my neck, painkillers got me all full of crazy ideas. I think the only real advantage of this over other offerings is the “I built this rifle” aspect which I know is something we desire up here. But I believe they described them as a single pin drop in, my bad if that’s not the case.
 
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Yes the "I built this" aspect certainly does have some appeal to it. That and the fact that this receiver set is Canadian made. The more I think about it, if I get this I'm putting as many Canadian made components as I possibly can into the build. Trigger Tech trigger, Maple Ridge Armoury 12" m-lock handguard, Maple Ridge Armoury 18.6" stainless dmr contour spiral fluted barrel, ATRS muzzle brake... Any other suggestions for Canadian made components? And sorry, no BCL parts in this build.

Are there any Canadian made QUALITY bcg's available?
 
Gotta laugh at the idea that these will fly out the door at $650 but $1000 people won't buy them.

They can't keep up with production for the BCL 102 at $1800. The BCL seems to be a basic shooter grade AR10. With these MCB You can build a basic shooter grade 5.56 for about the same price.

The $350-400 difference between $600-650 and$1000 isn't going to be a big deterrence. $1800-2200 rifles sell fairly well. Tavors are not uncommon and they had a much higher price tag.
 
Gatehouse said:
They can't keep up with production for the BCL 102 at $1800. The BCL seems to be a basic shooter grade AR10. With these MCB You can build a basic shooter grade 5.56 for about the same price.
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My thoughts, also cheaper than xcr.
Slap a good barrel on it, and you have a $2k nonres black rifle with all the ar15 features people want, and can meet the fable 1moa groupings.

Coyotes beware.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Of which $250.00 of that $750.00 price quoted is the cost to modify the upper so it is compatible with our lower.
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Absolutely.

A full upper and lower for a smaller production the $1000 makes sense. Do I wish it was lower? Yes. Is that realistic? Ehhhh

It lines up with the ATRS prices. Even along the lines of T97.ca uppers and lowers
 
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