M10X Canadian MSRP set
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Looks very good to me. I like the clarification regarding the various grades and types of materials used in the rifle's construction. It is good to know that strong consideration was given to using stainless steel components and springs for the gas-affected parts to minimize the effects of corrosive ammo. It appears to me that top-notch materials have been used throughout the construction of the M10X, as was reported earlier by a NS Show attendee. The sub-4 lb, 2-stage trigger is a nice feature as well. All things considered, I think that this rifle is going to be good value for the asking price and a strong seller on the Canadian market. It appears to be better made than the XCR (Eg . Steel receiver, stainless gas components), which would be the closest comparable NR firearm in 7.62x39mm. Time will tell, but so far the M10X continues to impress me. I am looking forward to putting an example through its paces in the new year!
The Xcr felt pretty damn well made to me.
Problem is they are $900 more than this gun and require you to remove the barrel to clean after shooting corrosive.
First I've heard of a 2 stage trigger, some firearms media requested that.
Problem is they are $900 more than this gun and require you to remove the barrel to clean after shooting corrosive.
First I've heard of a 2 stage trigger, some firearms media requested that.
Exactly, I saw this on myself on their website throughout this saga. How can people defend this and blanetenly lie about it? Don't tell me this didn't happen because I saw it change myself! At least I know which people to not deal with on CGN now....
As far as the gun goes, it looks pretty appealing. I will be in no rush of buying in it until I am convinced of the quality and reliability.
It's exactly the same rifle as the M10x that was sold to Americans prior to FRT release, at $1250. All the DMR this and DMR that is to justify their pricing nothing more. The only thing different is the 18.6 barrel. And by the looks of it it won't even ship with the magpul ak mag. The only ones defending them are the ones that have a benefit from the sales or bought one and need to justify the price they paid. The rifle looks solid, the business practice not at all.
I benefit in no way from sales of the M10X, nor have I purchased one to date. So, your theory about the motivations of those defending the M10X is fundamentally flawed - at least where I am concerned. The last time I checked, I will be buying the rifle, not the parent company. So I really don't care what the company did or did not do to inflate the cost for Canadian consumers. Even if true, that just puts M+M at the back of a very long list of every other firearms manufacturer doing business in Canada. The "NR Tax" is real and it is applied to every firearm that comes across the border through distributor (vice grey-maŕket) channels. Don't like it? Better find another hobby, because it won't change any time soon. M+M was made to look bad by Wanstalls premature pre-sale with an artificially low (as in lower than US MSRP) selling price. That is what started all the allegations of a huge Canadian mark-up - a fantasy pre-sale that Wanstalls quickly reneged on. So remind me again who I really ought to be pissed-off at? The $2k to $2.4k Canadian MSRP was discussed between M+M and Can Am over a year ago. It is literally "old news" that all of the nay-sayers are all in an uproar about....
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I'm still a bit confused, I thought he said stainless steel nitrated receiver? Also is this a new improved model across the board and that's why the price went up North and South? That would sort of make sense but then they go out of their way that all the improvements are specific to the Canadian model?
Likely the only thing specific would be the barrel length but they are not really saying that..... with all the drama of the past month or so you'd think they would start clearing the fog and shoot straight so to speak.
If you do some basic online research it seems that even some of our American cousins are a bit sketched out by M&M. They are not really an established company in the firearms industry and for all we know in 5 years they could be out of the game. It looks like a nice gun but it would suck a bit if parts support was hard to get down the line.
I wish things would get cleared up once and for all and then people can decide for themselves if the extra $500 is an issue or not.
I suspect with their sales numbers in US they can easily and honestly call each newly manufactured rifle "next generation". Low manufacturing capacity and scalability limitations also could be valid reasons to go with "sell few but high price" as opposed to " sell a lot with lower price".
Do a little research, and you will find that it is not uncommon for even established companies to abandon a product line for various reasons. Check out Robinson Armament and the saga of their first offering, the M96 Expeditionary Rifle. Robarm left the buyers of that particular rifle with zero product support, including spare parts. Who's to say that Maccabee Defence or Kodiak Arms won't go under in two years time and leave all of their customers high and dry? Such is the inherent risk of buying a new design from a small company. Don't like the odds? Then stick to the big names and their same old product.
If I were to start a thread where only the optimists and those excited for the rifle can discuss it and share photos and videos, would those who hate M+M and still bring up the MSRP fiasco and the shenanigans promise to avoid it and stay here?
Theres nothing more to add to that discussion, and there really are some interested in seeing info on what we pre-ordered for.
Theres nothing more to add to that discussion, and there really are some interested in seeing info on what we pre-ordered for.
Just ignore the haters, as I have elected to do. Once you push that little button you don't have to see their infantile drivel, even inadvertently. They won't leave a fresh M10X thread alone, as they simply can't help themselves. The hilarious and ironic part is that most of the M10X haters are T81 aficionados. Bwahahahah! One can only hope that they get a bent receiver, or "hand-ground" bolt, or furniture lacking mounting hardware, etc, etc, ad-infinitum. Hmmmm... $1100 for a piece of third-world junk built by sweat-shop child labour, or $2000 for a modern design built on state-of-the-art tooling in the USA. I think I know which way I will be leaning, LOL...
I don't know what you think this rifle is... it's a 65 year old design matched up with a 55 year old design and that's modern?
State of the art tooling? It's stampings? ANYONE can do that... and the component machine work is no better then Chinese from the pictures I've seen posted.
That's some potent koolaid you been drinking.
