IVI brass? Are we allowed to list in the EE?

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fraserdw said:
I have no live rounds or empty casings in my possession, sir. Made at the end of every range practice.
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That would be a difficult declaration for the RCMP to make since you get fresh ammo to fill your mags before you leave the range. We shoot off all our duty ammo at quals and top up with fresh.
 
BigUglyMan said:
That would be a difficult declaration for the RCMP to make since you get fresh ammo to fill your mags before you leave the range. We shoot off all our duty ammo at quals and top up with fresh.
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Do you guys care who gets it? ( brass) Not you personally, The RCMP I meant.
 
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jetfixer said:
"I have no live rounds, empty casing or pyrotechnics in my possession, Sir (or rank of senior member present if WO or below)!"

That's the range declaration CAF members make. It can be adjusted to include blanks at end ex.
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I was referring to the RCMP not having to make a declaration. I know the military guys do.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Ours is all policed up and dealt with by the instructors.
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During qualifications. But not when practicing on your own time or sighting in. These days my requal are at PRTC so it's all handled there and no doubt sold as scrap etc. However we can go practice and I highly recommend you check those zeros. A buddy of mine sighted in one of the C8 rifles lately and it came from the armory shooting 6" low at 100. Even my duty pistol recently came back from the armory after having the tridium sights replaced and while it shot tighter groups (shot really well actually), it was 5-6" to the left at 25 metres. I still passed the requals no issue but still that's disturbing. Figured it was me, until I checked the front sight and could see it was too far to the left.
 
Epoxy7 said:
During qualifications. But not when practicing on your own time or sighting in. These days my requal are at PRTC so it's all handled there and no doubt sold as scrap etc. However we can go practice and I highly recommend you check those zeros. A buddy of mine sighted in one of the C8 rifles lately and it came from the armory shooting 6" low at 100. Even my duty pistol recently came back from the armory after having the tridium sights replaced and while it shot tighter groups (shot really well actually), it was 5-6" to the left at 25 metres. I still passed the requals no issue but still that's disturbing. Figured it was me, until I checked the front sight and could see it was too far to the left.
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Wouldn't your front sight being left make you shoot right?
 
Brianma65 said:
Do you guys care who gets it? ( brass) Not you personally, The RCMP I meant.
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I know that, at Depot, you're not allowed to dumpster dive in the brass dumpsters. If our training guys didn't deal with the brass in their own way it would probably just go in the range pickup bin. We easily go through two 5 gallon buckets of brass per day at quals. On the course it's probably more. The amount of ammo we keep on hand for our training section would give you a hard-on that would probably cause a loss of consciousness.
 
Epoxy7 said:
No. Your back sight being left would make you shoot right.
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North of 7 said:
You sure? Good thing you guys send em off to the armorer. Not trying to be condescending, but I teach it differently.
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Ya, great thing we send them. I had my pistol shooting dead centre to the point where I could hit small targets at 50 metres if I took my time. Now I have to do kentucky windage for 5" at 25 metres to be dead centre. Fantastic.

I'm not an armorer so I could be wrong but I don't think so. I know it would take me two seconds to figure it out once I get the adjustment tool. The rounds are a really nice group but are 5-6" to the left of centre. I looked and the front sight is slightly to the left of centre on the pistol. The rear sight looks correct. I'm not touching the rear sight. If I put one finger up in front of me, then with the other hand I put two fingers up behind it to mimmick the sights, when I move the front sight finger to the left it causes you to move your head to line up the rear sights and the aim seems to be to the left. Hence why I figured I would be adjusting the front to the right side and just centering it the way it was before and shot perfectly. As long as I don't screw around with the rear iron sight as well, then it should take only a few minutes to sight in. If I'm wrong it's a couple of twists on the sight tool. If I start screwing around with the rear sight, it's a big mess if I'm not careful. These are night sights not adjustable target sights.

I will also add that your comment was 100 percent meant to be condescending. I think it's fairly obvious if it doesn't work out right that I would simply reverse and do the opposite. So there is no safety concern here as you seem to be insinuating.
 
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Epoxy7 said:
No. Your back sight being left would make you shoot right.
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Epoxy7 said:
Ya, great thing we send them. I had my pistol shooting dead centre to the point where I could hit small targets at 50 metres if I took my time. Now I have to do kentucky windage for 5" at 25 metres to be dead centre. Fantastic.

I'm not an armorer so I could be wrong but I don't think so. I know it would take me two seconds to figure it out once I get the adjustment tool. The rounds are a really nice group but are 5-6" to the left of centre. I looked and the front sight is slightly to the left of centre on the pistol. The rear sight looks correct. I'm not touching the rear sight. If I put one finger up in front of me, then with the other hand I put two fingers up behind it to mimmick the sights, when I move the front sight finger to the left it causes you to move your head to line up the rear sights and the aim seems to be to the left. Hence why I figured I would be adjusting the front to the right side and just centering it the way it was before and shot perfectly. As long as I don't screw around with the rear iron sight as well, then it should take only a few minutes to sight in. If I'm wrong it's a couple of twists on the sight tool. If I start screwing around with the rear sight, it's a big mess if I'm not careful. These are night sights not adjustable target sights.

I will also add that your comment was 100 percent meant to be condescending. I think it's fairly obvious if it doesn't work out right that I would simply reverse and do the opposite. So there is no safety concern here as you seem to be insinuating.
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F.O.R.S!!!
That's all you have to remember when adjusting iron sight POI.
FRONT OPPOSITE
REAR SAME

When you are using "Kentucky Windage" you are changing POA to correct POI but that doesn't change the way the sights need to be adjusted, so forget that.
 
Epoxy7 said:
Ya, great thing we send them. I had my pistol shooting dead centre to the point where I could hit small targets at 50 metres if I took my time. Now I have to do kentucky windage for 5" at 25 metres to be dead centre. Fantastic.

I'm not an armorer so I could be wrong but I don't think so. I know it would take me two seconds to figure it out once I get the adjustment tool. The rounds are a really nice group but are 5-6" to the left of centre. I looked and the front sight is slightly to the left of centre on the pistol. The rear sight looks correct. I'm not touching the rear sight. If I put one finger up in front of me, then with the other hand I put two fingers up behind it to mimmick the sights, when I move the front sight finger to the left it causes you to move your head to line up the rear sights and the aim seems to be to the left. Hence why I figured I would be adjusting the front to the right side and just centering it the way it was before and shot perfectly. As long as I don't screw around with the rear iron sight as well, then it should take only a few minutes to sight in. If I'm wrong it's a couple of twists on the sight tool. If I start screwing around with the rear sight, it's a big mess if I'm not careful. These are night sights not adjustable target sights.

I will also add that your comment was 100 percent meant to be condescending. I think it's fairly obvious if it doesn't work out right that I would simply reverse and do the opposite. So there is no safety concern here as you seem to be insinuating.
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It's all good I'm not trying to insult, but this is the exact reason the armorer generally handles this. It gives you time to focus on what matters and when you use a sight adjustment tool and "crack" the rear sight, if it's dòne multiple times it can loosen the rear sight causing unwanted drift. I certainly did not insinuate any safety concern, just hope you get your duty firearm sorted out. I am an instructor for a fellow department, pm me some time if your in the area. Wasn't trying to insult, best of luck!
 
I remember in training, and then block afterwards, when someone thought their gun was shooting where it wasn't supposed to, random instructor would take it, shoot it, and deem it whatever they felt.

Maybe the armorers are more fussy... I'd hope so. But I know the organization we work for, so I don't have a ton of faith. Same reason we double check our C8's, both eyes, more than one guy shooting it. Just because someone's an "expert" doesn't mean they do it right.
 
Jon. said:
I remember in training, and then block afterwards, when someone thought their gun was shooting where it wasn't supposed to, random instructor would take it, shoot it, and deem it whatever they felt.

Maybe the armorers are more fussy... I'd hope so. But I know the organization we work for, so I don't have a ton of faith. Same reason we double check our C8's, both eyes, more than one guy shooting it. Just because someone's an "expert" doesn't mean they do it right.
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Well said. People make mistakes, Or sometimes have a large workload.
 
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