Razor HD vs Swaro SLC Binos - Warranty?

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I’m in the market for my first higher end binoculars and have it narrowed down to these two in 10x42. I only had the chance to look at them in the store and can tell the swaros are much clearer and can only imagine the difference in lower light.

My only concern is the warranty - vortex is lifetime no fault whereas swaro is limited lifetime. Has anyone dealt with swaro on warranty? Would this deter you at all from buying their product? Interested to hear some opinions as I will be hunting with them and they will get beat and banged up.
 
I’m in the market for my first higher end binoculars and have it narrowed down to these two in 10x42. I only had the chance to look at them in the store and can tell the swaros are much clearer and can only imagine the difference in lower light.

My only concern is the warranty - vortex is lifetime no fault whereas swaro is limited lifetime. Has anyone dealt with swaro on warranty? Would this deter you at all from buying their product? Interested to hear some opinions as I will be hunting with them and they will get beat and banged up.

Vortex is one of the few brands that I don't carry (perhaps in the future), but I've carried Swarovski for quite a while.

Swarovski warranty/service (should you ever need it) is about as painless as it gets. You can contact Swarovski Optik North America directly, or have an authorized dealer do it. In either case, Swarovski will email you (or the dealer) a prepaid Fedex waybill, with the required customs documentation (important for rifle scopes). Simply box up the item, slap the waybill on it, and either have Fedex pick it up, or drop it off at a Fedex site. Swarovski will contact you once they receive the item, and once again when the service department does an assessment on the item. The only conditions under which Swarovski will provide a repair quote are a) if the repair is required due to user abuse/damage (i.e. crushed scope tube), of b) if the item has been out of production for so long that Swarovski no longer has parts, and must manufacture them. For instances that Swarovski deems there should be a repair charge, their estimate is based on their internal rates (i.e. they do not "mark-up" repairs). This is their stated policy.

In virtually every case (that I've seen as a dealer) the repair is cost-free (they cover shipping both ways, unless it falls into a or b above) and turn-around is 3 to 4 weeks (a bit longer if the item must go to Austria).

In practice, I have seen Swaro repair (at no charge) items that have been damaged due to hard use, accidents, etc... I have also seen them do some very remarkable things for customers sending in out of production/discontinued items.

The optics market is crowded and competitive - virtually every brand has a great warranty. However I would talk to dealers and ask them which brands have the most warranty returns, and why (defects/failures vs. abuse/wear and tear). Also, a good warranty should be a basic expectation, not a selling feature. If you're buying a parachute and the first thing the salesman mentions is the warranty...
 
I’m in the market for my first higher end binoculars and have it narrowed down to these two in 10x42. I only had the chance to look at them in the store and can tell the swaros are much clearer and can only imagine the difference in lower light.

My only concern is the warranty - vortex is lifetime no fault whereas swaro is limited lifetime. Has anyone dealt with swaro on warranty? Would this deter you at all from buying their product? Interested to hear some opinions as I will be hunting with them and they will get beat and banged up.

I sent a 25 year old scope in to Swarovski because the eagle logo was missing, everything else functioned flawlessly. (I had asked for the logo to get mailed, they asked for me to send it in). Sent me a Fedex label, I sent the scope in and had it back in 4 weeks. They had torn it apart and cleaned it, changed a couple of lenses and internals. No charge.
I wouldn't compare Swarovski with Vortex, they're in a different league. The simple fact they tuned up a 25 year old scope rather than replacing it says something about the faith they have in their product.
 
I wouldn't consider vortex on the high end scale of optics. My personal experience with Swarovski has been incredible. I only use Swarovski now. I have three of their scopes a spotter and their EL Binos. Simply the best
 
Thanks for the thoughts guys. I figured their warranty would be top of the line as well as their optics - that’s pretty much all I needed to help make the decision easier.

Good point about which brand has more optics coming in for warranty - could be a reason why you hear so much about vortex.
 
Hey Tyler

If your budget allows the purchase of the swaro's then don't hesitate. It will make you smile every time you use them. If you check back in the exchange forum of optics there is a member named Cleo on here with a near new pair for sale. When I talked to him asking why he was selling his response was becuase he had two pairs.

Also if you are looking at great high end optics check out
Zeiss victory HT
And
Lieca noctovid

Although I have no first hand experience these two other brands they are also at the top for 2017 optics reviews for binoculars.

Dan
 
Hey Tyler

If your budget allows the purchase of the swaro's then don't hesitate. It will make you smile every time you use them. If you check back in the exchange forum of optics there is a member named Cleo on here with a near new pair for sale. When I talked to him asking why he was selling his response was becuase he had two pairs.

Also if you are looking at great high end optics check out
Zeiss victory HT
And
Lieca noctovid

Although I have no first hand experience these two other brands they are also at the top for 2017 optics reviews for binoculars.

Dan

Thanks Dan, i will take a look at the ad. The swaro's are starting to stretch the budget but i don't think i would need another pair for a very long time. I would hate to have bought the vortex to have them not be "as good" just to go buy a swaro pair in the future.
 
Hey Tyler

Have you checked out PrecisionOptics for your glass? Omer carries a lot of good glass and he knows his stuff (as you can tell by his post). I'd give him a shout, he's a great guy to deal with. I bought a Z5 scope off him in the spring and haven't looked back...
 
Hey Tyler

Did you buy some glass yet........if so, what did u end up with?

I ended up with the razor HD. I bought the swaros and the razor and compared them side by side for a few days in different light conditions. No doubt the SLC’s are better binoculars in low light conditions but the difference was not big enough to justify the price difference for me. I didn’t feel at any disadvantage with the razors compared to the swaros and I was glassing across a valley well over 800 yards. Anything longer and that what I pack a spotter for.

I bought the vortex for $1250 new off amazon (msrp 1800) and the swaros were $2400. Having said that, if I had to pay $1800 for the razors i probably would have stepped up and got the swaros.
 
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