Need help with info - Indonesian No. 1 Mk. 3

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I will be presenting a small display (two tables) at the Regina Gun Show January 13 & 14. One of the rifles I am using is a really nice Indonesian SMLE. I've pretty well googled myself dizzy. I am wondering if someone can point me to some information on these rifles?

This old girl is marked 1959 Cal 7.7 Barrel, bolt, action match.

Thanks in advance. :)

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Thinking you must have just about the only "nice condition" Indonesian SMLE out there; any I have seen were beat half to death.

What we call Indonesia today was the Dutch East Indies. It was occupied by the Japanese during WW-2 and the occupation was HARD. Japan needed the oil, which mostly was in Java, in order to continue their war in Burma and on to India. I remember sitting with my Dad about 40 years ago and listening to Oil-patch Old Fart Charlie Hawke as he described his flight from the onrushing Japs after he abandoned his drilling rig in Java. He had heard enough about the Japanese that he did NOT want to spend the coming years in an internment camp..... or simply stood up by a palm tree and shot or used for bayonet instruction. He got out.

At the end of War 2, Holland was armed mainly with British and American equipment; most of the Dutch rifles had been removed by the Germans. British-made and Australian-made SMLEs were provided for the Dutch colonial government in the East Indies. A problem arose in that the locals, with considerable inspiration from the Communists, did not really want a return to colonial status, so they begged, borrowed, stole and purchased large quantities of surplus equipment (including artillery as well as small arms) and staged a not-too-friendly civil war which went on for several years. At the conclusion of these hostilities, modern Indonesia took shape, most of the Dutch went home...... and Indonesia was left with a huge pile of worn-out and jungle-eaten equipment.

Indonesia then set up a repair system and, in the absence of many spare parts, refurbed as many rifles as they could, often with cannibalised parts. The products of this program were marked with the Indonesian 5-point star on the Butt Socket, all earlier markings were scrubbed and then the rifles were issued to the new Indonesian forces for use until something more modern could be obtained.

I have seen half a dozen Indonesian SMLEs, ranging in condition from a Body with a thoroughly-toasted barrel, to one in what I would term "reasonably ratty" condition; that one I own. I have never seen one in anything approaching the condition of this rifle. You have a real "keeper" there!
 
Thinking you must have just about the only "nice condition" Indonesian SMLE out there; any I have seen were beat half to death.

What we call Indonesia today was the Dutch East Indies. It was occupied by the Japanese during WW-2 and the occupation was HARD. Japan needed the oil, which mostly was in Java, in order to continue their war in Burma and on to India. I remember sitting with my Dad about 40 years ago and listening to Oil-patch Old Fart Charlie Hawke as he described his flight from the onrushing Japs after he abandoned his drilling rig in Java. He had heard enough about the Japanese that he did NOT want to spend the coming years in an internment camp..... or simply stood up by a palm tree and shot or used for bayonet instruction. He got out.

At the end of War 2, Holland was armed mainly with British and American equipment; most of the Dutch rifles had been removed by the Germans. British-made and Australian-made SMLEs were provided for the Dutch colonial government in the East Indies. A problem arose in that the locals, with considerable inspiration from the Communists, did not really want a return to colonial status, so they begged, borrowed, stole and purchased large quantities of surplus equipment (including artillery as well as small arms) and staged a not-too-friendly civil war which went on for several years. At the conclusion of these hostilities, modern Indonesia took shape, most of the Dutch went home...... and Indonesia was left with a huge pile of worn-out and jungle-eaten equipment.

Indonesia then set up a repair system and, in the absence of many spare parts, refurbed as many rifles as they could, often with cannibalised parts. The products of this program were marked with the Indonesian 5-point star on the Butt Socket, all earlier markings were scrubbed and then the rifles were issued to the new Indonesian forces for use until something more modern could be obtained.

I have seen half a dozen Indonesian SMLEs, ranging in condition from a Body with a thoroughly-toasted barrel, to one in what I would term "reasonably ratty" condition; that one I own. I have never seen one in anything approaching the condition of this rifle. You have a real "keeper" there!

Thanks for the rare information on these.
 
Ah George! I was hoping you would come through! Next visit I'll bring this one for you to drool over. :p

Thank you!
 
Glad to be of some help, KJOHN.

If you bring this one, bring an oil-can also, else it will RUST before it gets out of my hot little paws!

This one really IS a prize.
 
There is a possibility that this one has been redone, but I am unable to say one way or the other. If it has been redone since the rebuild in Indonesia, whoever did the work has done a very nice job.
 
Fantastic looking rifle kjohn! Isn’t the Regina gun show January 13th & 14th though? Just don’t want anyone to miss out on your display.
 
I wonder if it was re-built in Australia? The wood looks Ozzi.
certainly not Aussie wood with the tie-plate reinforce at the rear of the forend, i notice the wood also seems to cover the foot of the chargerbridge, i think i have seen that before or i have just seen this rifle before
 
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