beo mags, yes beo mags, what's going on?

"Another good point even though saying you didn't know is not an excuse that will get you far in court."
"Ignorance is no excuse for the law and it is your responsibility to know and understand the laws regarding your chosen activity."

I have always had a problem with this statement because it seems it only works one way. How is it that if I am at fault for something because I had no way of knowing what was the law, It is not like we all go read the millions pf laws every week to see what is or is not the law.

And on the other hand if the police charge me or some one else with a crime. (what ever it might be) and I/you/us have to go to court and after the process it is determined the police were wrong in their interpretation of the law. Should they not be charged and suffer at least for court costs because they were Ignorant of the law should it not work both ways?
 
b_w. said:
if i was going to use beowulf mags in the wild i would make sure i have legal defence insurance. the process is the punishment even if charges are dropped.
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Be advised that the Legal Defence Insurance doesn't really cover plinking in the woods. It covers hunting, and it covers range activities. If you want to be plinking, get squared away as a hunter: licence, tags, blaze orange, whatever else is required from you and be in the right ecological/wildlife maintenance region for the species you are "hunting".
 
meanwhile, OP is probably like:
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Brian46 said:
You clearly didn't read my post.
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Yeah I did,

And while it is clear that you have experience in every aspect of life, and are very knowledgeable in them all.

I know the system does not work like you say.

I also have professional reasons to not have a criminal record, as do many here...

So it is not new... and you are not special.
 
Daver_II said:
Yeah I did,

And while it is clear that you have experience in every aspect of life, and are very knowledgeable in them all.

I know the system does not work like you say.

I also have professional reasons to not have a criminal record, as do many here...

So it is not new... and you are not special.
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Read the contract of your employment, have a look at your insurance/bond policy and finally peruse the legal documents you register with the government each year for your businesses and get back to us.

Criminal charges cause you problems, a criminal record/conviction just means those problems never go away
 
oenone said:
Be advised that the Legal Defence Insurance doesn't really cover plinking in the woods. It covers hunting, and it covers range activities. If you want to be plinking, get squared away as a hunter: licence, tags, blaze orange, whatever else is required from you and be in the right ecological/wildlife maintenance region for the species you are "hunting".
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What? That is one of the most nonsensical posts in this entire thread! And in a thread like this one, that is an achievement!
 
Brian46 said:
Being arrested and charged is not without cost while you wait a year or more with a retained lawyer to see if the crown offers you a deal just before the trial date to keep the mags in exchange for dropping charges. The above is exactly how it went for the one case we can actually confirm happened, you can ask the accused in that case what his total legal cost was if you want exact numbers. I do however know a good criminal lawyer in BC starts at $500hr
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That is why firearm legal defense insurance is a good idea. And I’d ask the accused like you suggest but I’m sure his lawyer did not provide an itemized invoice detailing how much representing him cost for each of the individual drug and firearm charges he and his wife faced.

Brian for the love of god, you can dance around the facts all day long but it is only making you look like an idiot. Please consider letting your crusade go and walking away, for your own sake as much as everyone else’s.
 
I don’t read Brian’s posts because frankly I don’t believe anything he says. The CO/RCMP beo spotchecks should raise red flags that this guy is fos.

FYI, the ignore feature here could be better. I’d prefer to not even know so and so posted at all. It’s almost more distracting having someone on ignore.
 
Runningfool said:
What? That is one of the most nonsensical posts in this entire thread! And in a thread like this one, that is an achievement!
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You are right that it isn't relevant to the discussion of the legality of Beowulf magazines.

That being said, I don't want someone to get the impression that the Firearms Legal Insurance covers them while they are out target shooting on Crown Land because last time I read the terms and conditions in their entirety, it was pretty clearly that it covers legal hunting, and legal range activities. Plinking on Crown Land doesn't fit into these two categories, so you have to make a choice between having the hunting "t"'s crossed and the "i"'s dotted, or having no insurance when out plinking not on a range.
 
Runningfool said:
That is why firearm legal defense insurance is a good idea. And I’d ask the accused like you suggest but I’m sure his lawyer did not provide an itemized invoice detailing how much representing him cost for each of the individual drug and firearm charges he and his wife faced.

Brian for the love of god, you can dance around the facts all day long but it is only making you look like an idiot. Please consider letting your crusade go and walking away, for your own sake as much as everyone else’s.
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What crusade? I thought this is a regular discussion for this page
 
oenone said:
You are right that it isn't relevant to the discussion of the legality of Beowulf magazines.

That being said, I don't want someone to get the impression that the Firearms Legal Insurance covers them while they are out target shooting on Crown Land because last time I read the terms and conditions in their entirety, it was pretty clearly that it covers legal hunting, and legal range activities. Plinking on Crown Land doesn't fit into these two categories, so you have to make a choice between having the hunting "t"'s crossed and the "i"'s dotted, or having no insurance when out plinking not on a range.
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Why don’t you read those terms and conditions again and then come back here and show us how it doesn’t cover someone while out target shooting on crown land? I have a sneaking suspicion you won’t be able to do so, but I will await your response.
 
LeadMonkey said:
Alright well I made it to 22 pages so guess that means I have the biggest dong huh?!?

I think it has ran its course at least for me anyway...

I'm sure I made my point, perhaps I'm guilty of being an a$$hole just like many others here, so be it.

Anyway there is precisely less than 1% of the owners of these mags aware that there is even ANY controversy surrounding them...

I will sit back and wait for my official letter advising of confiscation, until that day I won't sweat it and just leave my lawyer on retainer while I continue to have fun shooting my 15 rounds from legally purchased .50 Beowulf magazines alongside my RCMP buddies competing at a high level, knowing that life is too short to waste worrying about our dips#it led government nor their tyrannical corrupt police force leaders making up all kinds of bulls#it prohibitions that will never see the light of day in a courtroom.

LeadMonkey out.
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Im team LeadMonkey all the way! Your info seems solid, and so is your delivery......
 
Daver_II said:
*Convicted*

I guarantee if someone loses their job on a charge, and they are successful in having it dropped or winning the court case.... They will get a very sizeable settlement.
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An Employer only needs a reason for immediate termination without severance. As long as they give you notice, or pay you severance, then can fire you without cause at any time. (Of course if you are unionized things can be different.)
 
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