beo mags, yes beo mags, what's going on?

If I got in trouble for having 50 Beowulf Magazines, would you guys cover that?...



The program is designed to protect those gun owners who follow the firearms act and get charged regardless. If you’re following the proper laws with regards to the Beowulf magazine and you’re prosecuted with charges that aren’t in line with the act then that’s what the policy is designed to protect against. If you’re caught with 6 rounds of .223 in your Beowulf then you can expect the policy wouldn’t respond as that’s against the law.

There you have it boys. Insurance says they don't cover you if you get charged with Beo Mags.
 
Recently spoke with someone in the bureaucracy who pointed out Beo mags are not illegal. Deals with this stuff from the govt side every day. Also, Ruger 25 rnd mags are legal also. Members are directed not to charge because the Crown doesn't want to lose. Brian, it's pointless to reply, you're on my ignore list.
 
Recently spoke with someone in the bureaucracy who pointed out Beo mags are not illegal. Deals with this stuff from the govt side every day. Also, Ruger 25 rnd mags are legal also. Members are directed not to charge because the Crown doesn't want to lose. Brian, it's pointless to reply, you're on my ignore list.

The only one qualified to make that judgement is a judge.

The police force (the ones responsible for classifying magazines) is saying they are illegal based on their opinion that they are modified 556 mags, not propriety 50beo mags.

Until this goes infront of judge (if it ever does) all we'll have is people's opinions.

The government knows of this issue, according to inside sources. Good chance it gets addressed in the coming gun legislation the liberals will be tabling soon.

As for the directive to not lay charges, I've seen that for the 10/22 mags. I've personally seen no such thing for 50 Beo mags.
 
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The only one qualified to make that judgement is a judge.

The police force (the ones responsible for classifying magazines) is saying they are illegal based on their opinion that they are modified 556 mags, not propriety 50beo mags.

Until this goes infront of judge (if it ever does) all we'll have is people's opinions.

The government knows of this issue, according to inside sources. Good chance it gets addressed in the coming gun legislation the liberals will be tabling soon.

As for the directive to not lay charges, I've seen that for the 10/22 mags. I've personally seen no such thing for 50 Beo mags.
You won't. Nor will anyone like the person I spoke to make a legal statement to that effect because then it would be time for a new job. Everyone speaking in hushed tones about COURT!!! reminds me of "YOU KIDS BEHAVE OR ILL COME DOWNSTAIRS AND BEAT YOU". Fear only works for a while. Life is too short to be like cat scared under the couch all day.
 
You won't. Nor will anyone like the person I spoke to make a legal statement to that effect because then it would be time for a new job. Everyone speaking in hushed tones about COURT!!! reminds me of "YOU KIDS BEHAVE OR ILL COME DOWNSTAIRS AND BEAT YOU". Fear only works for a while. Life is too short to be like cat scared under the couch all day.

For the 10/22 mag thing, there was an rcmp memo that specifically instructed officers not to lay charges for 10/22 mags unless they had other offenses to charge them with.

Unless a similar memo relating to Beo mags gets posted on CGN, I am left with no other option but to assume cops were not instructed to treat Beo mags the same as 10/22 mags. The fact that at least two people have been charged with Beo mags, while I am aware of zero charged for 10/22 mags would support that.

You call it fear, I call it risk assessment. The risk of the potential consequences is not worth the benefit of using them IMO.
 
For the 10/22 mag thing, there was an rcmp memo that specifically instructed officers not to lay charges for 10/22 mags unless they had other offenses to charge them with.

Unless a similar memo relating to Beo mags gets posted on CGN, I am left with no other option but to assume cops were not instructed to treat Beo mags the same as 10/22 mags. The fact that at least two people have been charged with Beo mags, while I am aware of zero charged for 10/22 mags would support that.

You call it fear, I call it risk assessment. The risk of the potential consequences is not worth the benefit of using them IMO.

Charges that came to nothing..... once, I called myself a ballet dancer. Equally unsound to make decisions by. Cops wouldn't drop charges in exchange for giving up the mags if a conviction was likely. Yourself and Brian are fear mongers. Both would make great new RCMP members if you passed the background though.
 
You boys taking your direction from internet posts; manufacturer statements; memos; and even Mounted Police bulletins are the reason that we will not ever have relaxed restrictions.

Man-up, take your direction FROM THE LAW.

And let the Mounted Police know that you too are unfuqwithable.
 
You boys taking your direction from internet posts; manufacturer statements; memos; and even Mounted Police bulletins are the reason that we will not ever have relaxed restrictions.

Man-up, take your direction FROM THE LAW.

And let the Mounted Police know that you too are unfuqwithable.

But thats the problem. Nobody can agree on what the law says.

Prohibited Magazines:

"3 (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in

(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,

(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,"

If the magazine is either designed or manufactured for 556, its a 556 magazine. The RCMP claim the 50 Beo mag is not an original design, and that it is originally designed for 556. Therefore, the 556 limit applies.
 
Ppl hate me for saying it, and that's okay, but where these cartridge magazines are concerned, the law is abundantly clear.
 
Ppl hate me for saying it, and that's okay, but where these cartridge magazines are concerned, the law is abundantly clear.

I just linked the law. What is abundantly clear about that?

The law says a 556 rifle magazine that can hold more than 5 rounds of 556 is illegal.

The problem is whether or not the 50 Beowulf is just an adaptation of an existing magazine design, or its own unique design.
 
Charges that came to nothing.....
It cost the accused nothing? No time, no money, nothing?

I wish I lived in this fantasy land where criminal charges being laid cost the accused nothing.

I can only see it costing nothing if the charges were reversed within minutes of them being laid. But an arrest, charges, Property seizure, news articles, etc have a major effect $$$ wise even if they are dropped at a later date.

It stays with you for life and causes you problems. If you travel for work you can get delayed for hours because you have to answer truthfully to questions like "have you ever been arrested" or "have you ever been charged with a crime"
 
Theoretically, before this mess started, could one have created a LAR-15 chambered for .50 beowulf and then created 10 round .50 beowulf pistol mags?
 
Theoretically, before this mess started, could one have created a LAR-15 chambered for .50 beowulf and then created 10 round .50 beowulf pistol mags?

Wouldnt matter if it is found that AA, the holder of the 50 beowulf Trademark/patent modified a 223 magazine as part of the original "design" process rather than starting from scratch like say a 450 bushmaster or Remington 30ar stanag pattern magazine

Any copy of his design or based there on would end with the same fate.
 
It’s funny how you say the RCMP are the experts, the same experts who’ll be called by the crown to testify.

But in 2013 these same experts ,stated that the Beo mags were legal.

Wouldn’t that be awesome, the crown and I using the same experts..

Kinda like having a ventriloquist.

Lol
 
It’s funny how you say the RCMP are the experts, the same experts who’ll be called by the crown to testify.

But in 2013 these same experts ,stated that the Beo mags were legal.

Wouldn’t that be awesome, the crown and I using the same experts..

Kinda like having a ventriloquist.

Lol

Do you have a document from the rcmp in 2013?
 
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