M1 Garands at Tradex?

What is going on with this pricing? They certainly aren't rare or hard to find. And more importantly, what's the next 2300$ milsurp ;) ?
 
Some of these rifles had WWII barrels on WWII actions. The bore conditions are in VG condition. That in its self make them unusual as almost all WWII garand barrels are worn out.
 
Pblatzz said:
Some of these rifles had WWII barrels on WWII actions. The bore conditions are in VG condition. That in its self make them unusual as almost all WWII garand barrels are worn out.
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This is generally the case as barrels were worn out through a combination of heavy use, corrosive primed ammo and poor/negligent cleaning. US GI .30-06 ammo didn't switch to non-corrosive priming until around 1952.

As a group many of the Danish surplus Garands, whether Springfield, Winchester, Beretta or Breda exhibited pretty good original barrels. The reasons; lighter, non-combat use and a high degree of technical control and maintenance.

The later Danish made M2 ball was non-corrosive primed and of high quality. One of my best "finds" over the years was a large stash of Canadian made M2 ball dated 1955 and 1962. We used to draw 4B/1T belted .30 cal MG ammo so that folks could use the tracer ammo in the sub-cal training adapters for the 106mm RCL. Whatever to do with all that leftover ball ammo?;)
 
ricohman said:
Although it's too late to buy one as they are mostly sold, I did inquire earlier in the day as to their origin and whether they were CMP rifles.
I have not received a response and since they are mostly sold I doubt if I will.
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Weimajack has a half dozen or so left at the same price and likely from the same distributor.
 
Personally I believe anyone who bought one at 2195$+taxes and shipping got hosed. I really hope anyone who did enjoys it as odds are you will have a exceptionally hard time selling it on the second hand market at anywhere near that price.

Fairly common rifle in Canada, which before this import sold in the 1000-1600$ range, and I suspect will still sell in that range on the used market as the people who know the market value didn't buy from this import.
 
ricohman said:
Are the Beretta and Breda receivers inferior to the Springfield and others?
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The immediate answer is no. They are all built to the same drawings and all parts are interchangeable. The practical answer is no. Wartime Springfields were made under wartime production pressures. The postwar Italian Garands were made on commercial contracts to compete with those by-then 10 to 15 years old war surplus ones. I would consider a Breda or Beretta to be superior quality to any USGI rifle. The story is that Winchester's M1 line was sold/given to the Italians as military aid to rebuild their economy and military in the early years of NATO.
 
Snakes709 said:
Any idea what a Danish Winchester m1 goes for these days in pretty decent condition? A guy is selling one locally and im considering picking it up.
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(deleted original response) I misread your post.

Winchester Garands have a disproportionate value. The civilian company's record at delivering Garands was pretty bad. Springfield had to send their inspectors and experts to the Winschester plant to keep guns going out the loading dock. Today it would be a major procurement scandal, but in wartime there weren't many choices. And, Winchesters are always a few drawings behind a contemporary Springfield. But, there is a collectors' following and a Winchester Garand will hold its value better than any other maker.
 
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purple said:
The reason why the Beretta and Breda Garands were parted out in Canada and the receivers left here as orphans while the parts were sent to the US, is because the rifles and/or the receivers couldn't be imported to the US under existing US laws. AFAIK things haven't changed.
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Yup. When Canadians had enough $199 Garands from Alan Lever in the late 90s, the dealers had to do something with their inventory. Italian Garands were stripped, the parts bagged and sold into the US. The receivers were essentially abandoned, and are now getting rebuilt one expensive piece at a time.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
Yup. When Canadians had enough $199 Garands from Alan Lever in the late 90s, the dealers had to do something with their inventory. Italian Garands were stripped, the parts bagged and sold into the US. The receivers were essentially abandoned, and are now getting rebuilt one expensive piece at a time.
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Very interesting. So thats why there's so many Italian M1's around. Cool to have another uniquely Canadian aspect of Garands
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Personally I believe anyone who bought one at 2195$+taxes and shipping got hosed. I really hope anyone who did enjoys it as odds are you will have a exceptionally hard time selling it on the second hand market at anywhere near that price.

Fairly common rifle in Canada, which before this import sold in the 1000-1600$ range, and I suspect will still sell in that range on the used market as the people who know the market value didn't buy from this import.
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If you could point me in the right direction to buy some very good surplus Garands with WWII actions and barrels (or post war) for $1000 - 1600, I would like to buy a few.
I've been searching for a while now.
 
ricohman said:
If you could point me in the right direction to buy some very good surplus Garands with WWII actions and barrels (or post war) for $1000 - 1600, I would like to buy a few.
I've been searching for a while now.
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EE, gunshows, asking around at your gun club, local paper ads, etc.

My friend a couple months ago bought a pretty nice one for 1000$, which I do think was below market value, but deals are out there if you look and wait long enough.
 
We're beyond a $1000 Garand now unless the market becomes swamped with a bunch of new imports, which is unlikely. The Tradex rifles sold quickly at over $2000 which tells you something.

You should be able to pick up a good one in the $1500 - $1700 range these days. Its all about supply and demand.

Its a totally different market, but I've been trolling the Arizona gun shows this winter and see decent ones in the $1300 - $1600 range after factoring in exchange rate.
 
I don't think the CMP is going to export any guns to Canada. They have a deal
with the US Military to sell guns to US rifle shooters with the proper paper work.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
EE, gunshows, asking around at your gun club, local paper ads, etc.

My friend a couple months ago bought a pretty nice one for 1000$, which I do think was below market value, but deals are out there if you look and wait long enough.
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I've been to the gun shows, looked on line everywhere. Papers? Nobody uses adds in the paper adds anymore lol.
PLease PM me a link or post it here. I would buy 3 or more for $1000 for a nice surplus Garand.
And I have searched everywhere online in Canada,I don't know where you will find these cheaper Garands in any quantity.
 
can14 said:
I don't think the CMP is going to export any guns to Canada.
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You don't have to think The CMP is legally barred from selling any inventory outside of the U.S. It's statutory mission is to promote safety, competition and marksmanship for Americans, particularly youth, only. Considering how fast the CMP sells out of stock, American politicians and gun owners would riot if the CMP exported even a sling.
 
Fellow co-worker of mine at Wholesale Sports had a Camp Perry CMP Garand back on 2006. I remember it was Natl match'ed with a grinded serial # and Mfg on the receiver.

Unknown how he got it but had ties to the US being born there.
 
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