Wolverine's WK180-C

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jrusseller said:
Interesting rifle, but I feel it misses out on a couple of the truly great things the ar180b had going for it.

1. On the 180b, the flash hider is machined into the barrel, instead of being threaded for one to be added on. This allows you to have a shorter OAL. Made the 180b a bit more like a 16” barrwl with 2.6” flash hider, versus this 18.7” barrel with another 2” of flash hider added on top.
2. Medium profile barrel: I think this is a mistake in a gun like this. A lot of the balance issues associated with these long barreled NR rifles comes from a heavy barrel. The original pencil profile of the 180b helped mitigate the front heavy aspect
3. The handguard length. I know looks are subjective, but I feel like many NR guns look silly with a short rail and long barrel. Why not a 12” rail system? Especially if it’s a lightweight mlok design!
Like I said, cool rifle but I think I may hold out hopes for a future version with some of these changes.
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I agree with you 100% but my first priority was to keep the retail below $1,000.00

I am going to try and keep the barrel as thin as we can.

As she is a gas piston gun the hanguard must allow acess to the gas piston so it can not extend pass the gas block or it would have to be removed first. My second priority was to keep her simple.

Production guns will have a mid length gas system with the appropriate longer hand guard, I think this will improve handling and looks.
 
ljones said:
But whether we like it or not the Libs have put firearms law in the RCMP hands. They have stated so openly. So yes RCMP opinion is law now. Or so the Libs have stated. So who to believe at this point. I am not trying to be a sh*t disturber. The government says one thing, you say another. It is getting bloody confusing. I am fairly new to black rifles so never had to deal with this much before but with the Libs and RCMP in lock step I trust neither. Also the Firearms Act is clear as mud. They can twist it any way they want and have given the RCMP the permission to do so. I just don't trust them. I am not looking to get a refund. We just have to be ready should they try anything and expect them to do so. With the new firearms control bill yet to come out I hardly think this and the BCL 102 will escape notice. They won't like it.
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No. They haven't. They wrote a law. Enforcement of all laws falls to the rcmp. Law enforcement and prosecution relies legal opinions and case law.

Firearms are just more in your face.

I'm saying the same as everyone else. I'm just not dumbing it down to one line to sell to voters.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
I am saving the NRT for those worthy customers who have always accused us of exploiting the Canadian market. It has already been said we could have sold this rifle for $1,250.00 or even $1,500.00 I trust I have made my point. We have even offered a healthy discount for Canadian dealers.
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That’s the reason why I have and will always continue to support your business and buy from you.

In a capitalist world dominated by greed, seeing a business putting is customers first instead of maximum profits deserves my utmost respect.

Thank you Wolverine Supplies!
 
Ok so when I get stopped in the bush shooting this on crown land.....and I tell the police that it's NR ...... and they tell me "your under arrest for shooting a restricted AR15" where is my backing stating that this is indeed NON RESTRICTED?
 
Red_Liner740 said:
I think its bad news for a lot of NR 223 rifles....This will definitively cause the Macdef upper and lower sale to either screetch to a halt or slow down considerably....AR15 mags, AR15 interchangeable barrels, hand guards, pistol grip, trigger groups....definitively has everything but Direct Impingement system of the Macdef (AR15).

I will probably still go ahead with my Macdef pre-order but instead of ordering another upper I'll get just the WK180 for all of my NR 223 needs! Especially since I'm going for a 6.5 Grendel hunting rig, which is an option that is currently unavailable with the 180. Man I'm excited! And now that I have a really nice barrel from SJ sitting on the shelf, i guess it'll go into the WK180 instead of the SLR.
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Ironheart said:
Ok so when I get stopped in the bush shooting this on crown land.....and I tell the police that it's NR ...... and they tell me "your under arrest for shooting a restricted AR15" where is my backing stating that this is indeed NON RESTRICTED?
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The firearms act. Plus you can point to the frt if you don't know how to articulate the law, and say it is just like the armalite ar180b or nodak nds18s which the lab agree are not AR15 variants.
 
It's finally happened.
Someone finally listened and gets it.
Well done Wolverine. You will sell thousands of these easily.
And well done at keeping it under $1K. I did not think it was possible/would ever happen but there it is.

Only thing that would have made more sense was a lightweight/pencil barrel but I guess it can be swapped in the future if one chose to.
Why the medium heavy barrel on a cheap, bare bones semi auto?

Will be nice to see this rifle blow the overpriced macdef stripped upper/lower set out of the water lol
 
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fenceline said:
No. They haven't. They wrote a law. Enforcement of all laws falls to the rcmp. Law enforcement and prosecution relies legal opinions and case law.

Firearms are just more in your face.
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Well I sure hope so. I don't wish to be the one that said I told ya so. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. The new bill is supposed to include I do believe that the RCMP not the manufacturer is supposed to be in control of classification. Whatever that means and what they propose to accomplish through that. They could use this as a test case to push that. I hope I am wrong. Never know what to believe anymore.
 
gutinater said:
Have you guys seen issues of bolt carrier tilt causing wear in the upper. I have seen a similar design in the USA using AR-15 barrels and nuts and due to the change in geometry with the gas piston and the BCG there was noticeable wear in the upper receiver after only a thousand rounds. Im excited for a 7.62x39 model
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Wolverine can you address this? Good questions.
 
ljones said:
Well I sure hope so. I don't wish to be the one that said I told ya so. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. The new bill is supposed to include I do believe that the RCMP not the manufacturer is supposed to be in control of classification. They could use this as a test case to push that. I hope I am wrong. Never know what to believe anymore.
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Re read what you just wrote...

The firearms act sets out what is NR, R, and Prohib. There are definitions there that the rcmp have to work with. And are limited by. Has been that was since the FA was written.

What you saying means the frt will have to be published before sale. Not change how they come to an opinion.

Which means a manufacture... right now... doesn't need to wait for the frt and if your rumour is true... the libs realize it.
 
fenceline said:
The firearms act. Plus you can point to the frt if you don't know how to articulate the law, and say it is just like the armalite ar180b or nodak nds18s which the lab agree are not AR15 variants.
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I'm really not sure to articulate the law as you state.....I just wanna get out a Fvcking shoot....and hate having to worry about what the RCMP think is this and that....hate having that hanging over my shoulders when I know I'm doing absolutely nothing wrong......you say point to the frt to point...which i totally understand.....but this one has none....nonetheless will think about this over the weekend if they haven't sold out.....just hope this isn't a flop
 
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