Saved from the dump!

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SO my dad asks me, do you want some old guns, helmet and some gun knives (Doesn't really know about bayonets...lol)

I said "yes! absolutely!". Apparently a friend was cleaning out his dad's attic and found these bits... was going to throw them in the dumpster but thought of my dad, since he knew I liked guns and stuff...

he brought me a dewat cut receiver but otherwise complete Browning BAR, a warden's helmet (W still barely visible)
A Dominican Machete, a 1917 Enfield bayonet, and the worst one...

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yes...a Ross bayonet with its matching scabbard

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saved for another day!

Dr.Oz
 

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Nice find.

Last summer, coming back from the Ancaster Gun Show, passing through a small village, I spotted a butt stock sticking out of a garbage can. A quick U turn brought me back, and I pulled it out.

A sporterized Ross 1910 cut down military rifle, sanded stock, but no windage leaf in the rear sight. After a speedy departure, when I got home, the muzzle of the barrel had about 3 inches of rust in it, but the rest looked good. Might have to counterbore the muzzle similar to the Finnish rifles, and see how it shoots. Another project to get to.

Almost any military stuff given to, or found, (especially if it is free,) is a good deal.
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You can't beat a deal like that. Its neat when people remember and pass stuff along that you would be interested in.
 
If you're talking about the two bayonets pictured it looks like you have a standard P1907 for a SMLE not a M1917. The P14 M1917 bayonets have two grooves cut into the grips at right angle to the blade. The short bayo is a P1888 MkI 2nd Type for a Long Lee-Enfield it is not a Ross bayonet. Both appear to be in decent condition and are nice finds.
 
FishDoc said:
SO my dad asks me, do you want some old guns, helmet and some gun knives (Doesn't really know about bayonets...lol)

I said "yes! absolutely!". Apparently a friend was cleaning out his dad's attic and found these bits... was going to throw them in the dumpster but thought of my dad, since he knew I liked guns and stuff...

he brought me a dewat cut receiver but otherwise complete Browning BAR, a warden's helmet (W still barely visible)
A Dominican Machete, a 1917 Enfield bayonet, and the worst one...

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yes...a Ross bayonet with its matching scabbard

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saved for another day!

Dr.Oz
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That's a really nice find and glad the items history gets maintained
 
Cottage Hill Bill said:
If you're talking about the two bayonets pictured it looks like you have a standard P1907 for a SMLE not a M1917. The P14 M1917 bayonets have two grooves cut into the grips at right angle to the blade. The short bayo is a P1888 MkI 2nd Type for a Long Lee-Enfield it is not a Ross bayonet. Both appear to be in decent condition and are nice finds.
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X2 except I would add that it looks like a Ross scabbard not the correct 1888 scabbard?
 
Last spring I visited the widow of a recently deceased friend to pick up his "gun stuff" to sell for her at the show. As I passed her garden on the way to his safe, which was out in the garage I noticed she was using bayonets for plant stakes.

Out of ten of them only 3 were OK and the rest had been there for years. They picked them up at the 3 Vets store in Vancouver about 50 years ago for 50 cents each because they didn't have scabbards. He had a half dozen more in a box with scabbards and frogs.

People just don't know and what the heck they made great tomato plant stakes.

Good on you OP
 
This appears to be a Ross scabbard, and good WW1 specimens are getting hard to find. Many, after a hundred years, have something wrong with them. You could trade it for an '88 type without much difficulty.
The '88 and '03 bayonets went through a variety of scabbard patterns, mostly in an effort to find something better. None of them worked any better than the original, which was often substituted. Even in WW2 some replacement '88 scabbard parts were still being procured from either WW Greener or Parker-Hale, can't remember which.
 
Cottage Hill Bill said:
If you're talking about the two bayonets pictured it looks like you have a standard P1907 for a SMLE not a M1917. The P14 M1917 bayonets have two grooves cut into the grips at right angle to the blade. The short bayo is a P1888 MkI 2nd Type for a Long Lee-Enfield it is not a Ross bayonet. Both appear to be in decent condition and are nice finds.
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yes! good catch on my typo - 1907 for the SMLE!
However, I wasn't sure about the Ross - if it is an 1888 Bayo, well its a close match. Scabbard has the number 644568 on the hilt, and then E.O. over S.D.G.H, over 108 (going to defer that to those in the know about regiment, etc). Blade has VR 4'95 on the blade and 103 on the hilt (my confusion with the 103-108 mismatch)
Any further info is greatly welcomed!
Dr.Oz
 
FishDoc said:
yes! good catch on my typo - 1907 for the SMLE!
However, I wasn't sure about the Ross - if it is an 1888 Bayo, well its a close match. Scabbard has the number 644568 on the hilt, and then E.O. over S.D.G.H, over 108 (going to defer that to those in the know about regiment, etc). Blade has VR 4'95 on the blade and 103 on the hilt (my confusion with the 103-108 mismatch)
Any further info is greatly welcomed!
Dr.Oz
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Most likely...

SDGH = Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry Highlanders
 
This should be its own sticky - 'Saved from the dump'. I have an early ~1941 US Bale helmet that my father-in-law found at the dump. He called me and said, you want a helmet? I said yes - it is completely untouched and all correct. Amazing what idiots will throw out...
 
granite said:
This should be its own sticky - 'Saved from the dump'. I have an early ~1941 US Bale helmet that my father-in-law found at the dump. He called me and said, you want a helmet? I said yes - it is completely untouched and all correct. Amazing what idiots will throw out...
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I would not call people idiots who throw out stuff they know nothing about because they know nothing about it.

If you presented me a baseball card and told me nothing about it I would have no idea its value. whether is .25 or $100 000 to me its a random piece of paper.
 
wayne54 said:
Good save yes! Sadly lots of items have been dumped by the uncaring.
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True, as the folk from that era pass on and the family descends to "clean up" the estate all manner of collectibles are tossed out without care or regard.
 
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