Schultz & Larsen M88

I would have to disagree. The receiver in question has completely dif dimensions like the bolt handle channel, only one step to the channel config, length from locking area of the channel to the action opening etc.... It has literally nothing in common with an m70.

I understand there is no information avail regarding the m71, but this does not mean they do not exist... Likely in small numbers. The serials from S&L from what I have seen are anything but reliable to that degree of accuracy, and we have no idea when the m71 would have appeared in that serial sequence.

Speculation has already resulted in spreading of rumors its an m88, but we know that isn't correct..... Because the head of S&L company thus far says so.
 
Loose-Cannon said:
I would have to disagree. The receiver in question has completely dif dimensions like the bolt handle channel, only one step to the channel config, length from locking area of the channel to the action opening etc.... It has literally nothing in common with an m70.

I understand there is no information avail regarding the m71, but this does not mean they do not exist... Likely in small numbers. The serials from S&L from what I have seen are anything but reliable to that degree of accuracy, and we have no idea when the m71 would have appeared in that serial sequence.

Speculation has already resulted in spreading of rumors its an m88, but we know that isn't correct..... Because the head of S&L company thus far says so.
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Looking at it again, I have to agree that I was wrong to suggest it was a modified M70 receiver. We don't know that it isn't an M88, however, because we haven't seen a 100% M88; we've seen only M88's modified from previous stock. According to some sources, a small number built to a new design.
See, for example, h t t p://billard85.########.ca/

Can we assume that the head of the current Schultz and Larsen company, which is not the older Otterup concern, knows for sure what the barrelled action is? The old business closed its doors in the early 1990's, almost a quarter of a century ago. The new business doesn't have anything to do with small bore rifles.
 
we've seen only M88's modified from previous stock.
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Because thats precisely what an m88 is and what makes an m88 an m88. I have looked at dozens of m88s all over the worlds internet and ALL are exactly that. Applying more weight to an obscure blog over what the President of Schultz & Larsen tells us may be interesting, but rather redundant. The burden of proof in this situation appears to be just as stubborn as the current facts.

Just because Ford stopped making a model A almost a century ago does not mean they cannot tell you all about it.

I would suggest referring to people in DK who know rather then speculate on what there simply is no evidence for. perhaps you are right, but at this point I'm just not seeing it.
 
The main differences that I see are, in no particular order, the stock, improved adjustable trigger, foresight, bolt removal!
 
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Also interesting to note, the GB thread says

The last M88 was numbered 28230 the 24th of december 1992.
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But yet the m71 (as identified by S&L) at Tradex has a 5 digit serial that looks to me like 70078 or 10078... Def does not look like a 2 at the beginning.

Pretty sure that is no m88. Can someone get the serial from Tradex?
 
Also in the GB thread... All this info and not a single mention of a completely dif barreled action being created for the 88. The way I read it, a few m88s received the stocks on the assembly line, and another 1k were added to guns in inventory.
 
The gun on this page is ..... Unidentified. More assumptions and conjecture will not solve this puzzle.

ht tps://www.naturabuy.fr/carabine-Match-22lr-SCHULTZ-LARSEN-DANEMARK-MK38KK-item-3510110.html
 
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Loose-Cannon said:
But yet the m71 (as identified by S&L) at Tradex has a 5 digit serial that looks to me like 70078 or 10078... Def does not look like a 2 at the beginning.Pretty sure that is no m88. Can someone get the serial from Tradex?
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You're absolutely right that doesn't look like a "2" at the beginning of the number. That's why I said the following in post #80
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The serial number of the barreled action in question is a little hard to make out but it is a five digit number below 20000.
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The Schultz and Larsen company that said it was an M71 is not the same company that produced that barreled action. The current S&L does not make small bore rifles. It's not the same company. It is remotely possible the allusion is to the Swing SIN 71, for which S&L seems to have made barrels in the early 1970's.

Hitzy gives another reminder to read the good information in the source referred to in posts #82 and #97. This source and others suggest there were only a limited number of "true" M88's ever manufactured.

The existence of a rifle with what appears to be the same barreled action over which all this ink is being metaphorically spilt may support Hitzy's suggestion that S&L was giving one more try to produce a .22LR target rifle competitive with Anschutz and similar rifles. The lack of such a rifle earlier in the Schultz and Larsen stable may have hastened the company's demise.
 
Seriously... The only reference to m70 vs m77 is this.

After searching the web, I discover that some of my rifles by there serial numbers are actually M77 and not M70.
The only difference I could find is the adjustable trigger and the bolt lock. The only difference between M70 and M77 is the trigger
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My problem with this is that its being looked at as the bible of information regarding the two models. The guy clearly states "after searching the web". Oh yeah.... Grand. We have no clue as to where he received his information etc. I have been down this road before in particular with the sks where bad information gets regurgitated all over he interweb and is eventually spoken as gospel.

This is what I see going on here... You have 3 models, and 4 dif guns. Either my rifle is an m88 as toted all over the net and the mystery gun is something else, OR my rifle is something else and the mystery gun is an m88. I have a hard time believing that S&L would give the same model designation to two completely different receiver animals.

About the only scenario in this case that would make sense is if there was no model designation change with the event of updating the trigger, my rifle is the 'actual' M77, and your mystery gun is the M88.

What makes me think this...

#1 people of days past could have assumed not knowing any better and not having access to actual m77s assumed the updated trigger 'must' mean m77.

#2 I found several rifles exactly like mine for sale in DK listed as....... M77s.
https://m.lauritz.com/en/auction/schultz-larsen-otterup-baneriffel-m77-kal-22/i3283086/
 
That is a mod77 in one of the 1000 stocks. They only made a few mod88 and used the rest of the stocks on their inventory.
 
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