The 338 Winchester Magnum Overlooked or Overhyped?

Dogleg said:
Now there's a guy that gets it.;)
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Yeah he gets that one of the most popular cases of all time is flawed, except however within bow range.... ;)


Dogleg said:
The guy that despises 30 calibers and anything Weatherby? Or is it just anything fast?
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He gets that if it works, who is someone on the internet to argue that it doesn't? Even if they belong to a "herd"
 
This is some info from the Nosler #5 Guide IMR 4350 powder, all maximum safe loads with 180 gr. partitions

calibre muzzle velocity grains of IMR 4350 length of barrel

30-06 2758 55 24in.

300wm 3130 70 24 in.

300 Weath 3088 76 26 in.

338 3260 75 24 in.

I did this 10 yrs. ago and I don't think ammo has gained or lost speed since then.. I kind of got tired of hearing how a 300 Weatherby was a laser beam:):)
 
GUB..........you might want to try some RL 25 in the 300 Wby. Outdated charts using an inappropriate powder for a given cartridge proves nothing.

Buckmastr........"one of the most popular cases of all time" Really? How did you determine that, ammo sales, die sales, rifle sales? I am truly interested in how the 338 Win Mag is rated as one of the most popular cases of all time..........
 
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c-fbmi said:
GUB..........you might want to try some RL 25 in the 300 Wby. Outdated charts using an inappropriate powder for a given cartridge proves nothing.

Buckmastr........"one of the most popular cases of all time" Really? How did you determine that, ammo sales, die sales, rifle sales? I am truly interested in how the 338 Win Mag is rated as one of the most popular cases of all time..........
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Aren't the 338, 300 and 458 the same case, even the 7mm RM? If so, yeah, it is one of the most popular of all time.
 
Of course you can get better results then I posted..
Then that should be relevant to all of the calibres?
Barrel length is 30-50 fps for each inch?? Is it not?
300 Weatherby uses a 26in. er
Using the IMR 4350 info was the only way to keep a even playing field
 
338 is a great cartridge. Unfortunately, I sold mine, due to the fact that I just didn't need a rifle like that for the style of hunting I do. Might get another one.
Still kicking myself a bit for letting it go......just cuz!!!!!
 
For me the love/hate thing with the 338wm comes from a misunderstanding of its intended use.

Someone said earlier....faster than a 300wm. Not true.

For me, the 338 should be thought of as a 30-06 with more power and heavier bullets. Pushing some of the larger bullets, in factory form, its going to be approaching 308win velocity.

If one wants bigger bullets....AND....300mag velocity. Then a 338 bore overbore magnum like the Weatherby, Edge, Rum, is in order.

Many available big magnums. Lots of people buy them, give up after less than a box. Others should have. The reason, is recoil. Someone penned a term for this ....minute of ego.
 
Buckmastr said:
Yeah he gets that one of the most popular cases of all time is flawed, except however within bow range.... ;)




He gets that if it works, who is someone on the internet to argue that it doesn't? Even if they belong to a "herd"
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1) He gets that terminal performance is heavily influenced by impact velocity; as amply proven by the same bullets working better at closer ranges than long.

2) I know little about belonging to a herd, but more than a little about killing them.
 
Rman said:
We do know you! You're the guy with 7500 plus posts, including pictures of trophy rooms, collectible rifles, guided hunts and who knows what else! You're constantly reminding us how good you think you are! With aplomb, even.

I find it somewhat disconcerting that you seem to find my posts and photos so offensive. I was, obviously mistakenly, of the impression that this is what this whole website was about. Like minded men and women sharing their firearm and hunting experiences and photos. Yes I have shared photos of my trophy room and some of my firearms as well as some of my hunts. You interpret this as my constantly reminding you of how good I think I am, really? And here I thought I was sharing these thoughts and photos with others who would appreciate them and the stories behind a lot of them. Apparently though, according to you, all I have been doing is extolling my arrogance and seeking adulation. Not much wonder why so many experienced and interesting men and women have ceased to post on this site.
I'm just a regular guy who had the good fortune to be quite successful in business and chose to spend my good fortune doing a lot of hunting. Some of which I have shared here on CGN, if this offends you, for whatever reason then may I suggest you join another site where nobody posts photos of their achievements or acquisitions so you don't have to be offended, or made to feel inferior. I have never said I was better than anyone here, I may have more experience than some, for what that's worth, and I have done a great many things in my 62 years of life. This doesn't mean I think I'm better than anyone, it means exactly what it is........I have a great many experiences from which to form my opinions and to share with those who may be interested. If you find me offensive and arrogant then all you have to do is put me on your "IGNORE" function, problem solved.
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Dogleg - I'm not sure why youre playing middleman.

The cartridge/case isn't flawed. It kills beyond 200 yrds. Animals aren't getting away just because you shot them with a 338 win mag. And of course their are faster .338 magnums.

As for killing herds, I believe you.
 
The 338 win mag is the ultimate big game calibre. According to some....

htt://www.petersenshunting.com/featured/338-winchester-magnum-the-ultimate-big-game-caliber/
 
Buckmastr said:
Dogleg - I'm not sure why youre playing middleman.

The cartridge/case isn't flawed. It kills beyond 200 yrds. Animals aren't getting away just because you shot them with a 338 win mag. And of course their are faster .338 magnums.

As for killing herds, I believe you.
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I have no interest in playing middleman, Douglas can speak for himself and does. I agreed with him on the effectiveness of higher velocity and how many people who are thrilled with a moderate cartridge drew that conclusion from short range shooting. For clarity I'll define short range as anything under 300 yards, mid-range as 3-600.
 
Too funny. It were appear as if there is some sort of line, for you, between relaying experience, and relaying superiority, of which your post above reeks of.
There was no mention of being offended, and certainly not inferior. That would indicate some sort of caring. There is none. You made statements that got responded to. Nothing more, nothing less. Please don't feel disconcerted, as there is none of that feeling on this end.
Again...lots of trails to the same place!

R.
 
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