Magazine capacities for small game hunting.

Spcamno said:
Where do you define Southern Ontario?

I hunt 57 and 60 that's in Southern Ontario.

Where you refer to when there is not rifle season is South Western Ontario around the Golden Horseshoe.
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No you are correct, my bad for not clarifying that part. Pretty well everything south of north bay can be considered southern Ontario. SW Ontario... the deep south.
 
Spcamno said:
Please read your regulation again to understand what the regulation define Southern Ontario.

You are in Hamilton area and that's is South Western Ontario and you are absolutely right there is no rifle season for deer but that's not Southern Ontario.

Please define your area and study the regulation for boundaries.
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Do you have a small game caliber restriction? No. Now reread what I wrote.

Rynnik said:
The areas where there is a small game caliber restriction correlate with the areas where there are no big game rifle seasons.
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John Y Cannuck said:
If you are in an area inhabited by game, prepare for a hard time with the C.O.
If you give him a hard time, you'll likely be trying your explanations it in court.

If you are shooting clays, you are at 'range' of sorts, even if it's not registered. as to your comment on people passing their courses, you should not be encouraging those people to push the regs.
A C.O. in this province has a lot of power, many police officers consider it to be more than what they have. They can really mess up your day.
If they lay charges, even if they fail in court, it's not gonna be a lot of fun. and it won't be cheap.
As Hoytcannon mentioned a lot if not most trap/skeet ranges want you to keep it plugged. It's the right thing to do WRT keeping clear of trouble.
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If you have targets out, a clay thrower, clays, no camo, talking and carrying on, I am sure the CO will see that you are target shooting and not hunting.

You can legally target shoot in Ontario at places other than a registered range, except in some specific municipalities.

My backyard is a place where game may be present, but I can legally shoot at a target with a shotgun with no plug as it is very obvious that it is target shooting.
 
Fox said:
If you have targets out, a clay thrower, clays, no camo, talking and carrying on, I am sure the CO will see that you are target shooting and not hunting.

You can legally target shoot in Ontario at places other than a registered range, except in some specific municipalities.

My backyard is a place where game may be present, but I can legally shoot at a target with a shotgun with no plug as it is very obvious that it is target shooting.
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Correct, just be sure you have all your I's dotted at T's crossed.
in my youth I worked for the MNR. Just like the police, there are nice guy CO's and guys with attitude.
In the unlikely event that he visits your camp in the off season, it's likely because he got a call from someone. He'll be looking for anything out of place, or said, that might indicate things are not what they seem. He has greater powers of search and seizure than the police.
My advice would be to be mr nice guy, and watch what you say.
Why you have a shotgun in an area inhabited by game is his first query, asked or not. I doubt he will even check the plug.
I've never had it checked, except when bird hunting.
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Correct, just be sure you have all your I's dotted at T's crossed.
in my youth I worked for the MNR. Just like the police, there are nice guy CO's and guys with attitude.
In the unlikely event that he visits your camp in the off season, it's likely because he got a call from someone. He'll be looking for anything out of place, or said, that might indicate things are not what they seem. He has greater powers of search and seizure than the police.
My advice would be to be mr nice guy, and watch what you say.
Why you have a shotgun in an area inhabited by game is his first query, asked or not. I doubt he will even check the plug.
I've never had it checked, except when bird hunting.
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Agree 100%, be nice, explain what you are doing and you will be fine. Generally speaking LEOs know by body language is someone is lying, having a shotgun at a hunt camp in July with no open game season does not mean you are going to be charged with illegal hunting, the same with a plug. We used to pull the plug just for fun and put it back in right away, although I still have the habit of trying to load 3rds into the tube when going hunting with it, just to make sure I did not forget to put it back in but I have never forgotten.

Your comment also works when sighting in big game rifles, most hunt camps are in an area that have an open bear season before the moose or deer season starts, but yet in a gravel pit or with a target setup at 100 yards is generally simple enough to prove you were not bear hunting without a license.
 
hmr-hound said:
Im pretty sure that you get 3 rounds for shotguns, 5 rounds for centerfire semi auto, 10 rounds for rimfire. In ontario we also have a caliber/shot size restrictions. No buck shot larger than #1 or bullet over .275 cal. when its not a big game season or you dont have a license for that game.

Technically even target shooting with your .270 on crown land in July in illegal in ontario. I found that out the hard way, luckily the conservation officer was a good one.
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So much is wrong in this post. Your ”I’m pretty sure...” is not really a help to anyone.
 
Runningfool said:
So much is wrong in this post. Your ”I’m pretty sure...” is not really a help to anyone.
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Ah, yes:

"I'm pretty sure..."

"As far as I know..."

"My understanding is..."

...these are some of the subtle warning signs of a CGN post that is not merely useless, but actively counterproductive.
 
hmr-hound said:
Im pretty sure that you get 3 rounds for shotguns, 5 rounds for centerfire semi auto, 10 rounds for rimfire. In ontario we also have a caliber/shot size restrictions. No buck shot larger than #1 or bullet over .275 cal. when its not a big game season or you dont have a license for that game.

Technically even target shooting with your .270 on crown land in July in illegal in ontario. I found that out the hard way, luckily the conservation officer was a good one.
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Let's beat this dead horse again.

Shotgun, 2 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber max for all hunting in Ontario.

Centerfire, they follow the Federal firearms laws and all their exceptions, if a 10rd pistol magazine in a semi auto rifle is legal you can hunt with it in Ontario.

Rimfire, they follow the Federal firearms laws and all their exceptions, a 100rd drum mag can be used for hunting with a rimfire in Ontario if legal by Federal Firearms laws.

"No buck shot larger than #1 or bullet over .275 cal. when its not a big game season or you dont have a license for that game"
This one you are mixing up regulations completely. You cannot use anything larger than #2 Lead shot, BB Bismuth or BBB for steel for small game when there is an open big game gun season unless you have a license for that big game. You cannot use shot smaller than #1 buck for hunting big game in Ontario and when using shot no shotgun smaller than a 20ga (yes, 410 slugs are legal). Also, the .275 cal regulation is a maximum limit when hunting small game in only the listed specific municipalities, I can shoot coyotes with a 50 BMG legally where I live and I live in Ontario.

"Technically even target shooting with your .270 on crown land in July in illegal in ontario. I found that out the hard way, luckily the conservation officer was a good one. "
This one is also not correct. You have to look at your municipal bylaws as well as hunting regulations. You can target shoot on Crown land with any rifle as long as there is no specific regulation against it for that specific municipality or parcel of land. In the Ottawa Valley you can sight in your rifles on Crown land all day long, you can use any rifle you want and you can do so in July. What the CO would have been charging you with is unknown to me, that it probably why you were not charged as you were not doing anything wrong. There are municipal restrictions on target shooting in some areas, down in SW Ontario I know of one that says nothing larger than .243 but it is not a blanket statement across Ontario.
 
The magazine capacity limit for semi-auto long-gun centre-fire is 5 (federal law), no mag limit for rimfire. For hunting any shotgun in ON TOTAL capacity is 3, 2 in magazine, 1 in chamber. There is a .275" maximum calibre limit for varmint hunting in much of S. ON and the municipalities where this applies are all listed in the hunting regulations summary.
 
wasa said:
To those looking for a page number, here is my reference. Ontario Hunting Regulations 2017-2018, PDF copy, page 25 (PDF page 29 of 104).

Paragraph 3. "You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the chamber and magazine combined."

Paragraph 5. "Under the Criminal Code of Canada you cannot possess any clip/magazine that holds more than five shots for a semi-automatic centrefire non-restricted firearm unless that clip/magazine has been specifically exempted, pursuant to the federal regulations".

Any typos mine...
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Sorry for the necro post but something has been bothering me...

I see that section in the regulations summary but I cannot find any mention of shotgun magazine capacity restrictions (or magazine restrictions of any sort) in section XI Hunting Methods and Firearm Restrictions in Ontario Regulation 665/98:Hunting. This section should cover these restrictions but I cannot find any reference to shotgun magazine restrictions for hunting game in the Ontario FWCA or related regulations. This does not include migratory birds which is the only place I can actually find any restrictions on shotgun magazine capacity other than the criminal code. I figure I'm probably missing something, but I've looked and I cannot find any regulation backing up paragraph 3 that you quoted.
 
"You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the chamber and magazine combined."

Page 25, under general regulations
 
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