FFP reticles for close to mid range

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today, there are many reticles to choose from, from mil-dot to BDC to Horus to the new Tremor 3.
the Horus reticles are ingenious design as a target reticle. but the tight grid makes me think the reticle may obscure the target in low magnifications.
For hunting situation between 50-500 yards, what is the best reticle? (hunting situation: deer size target that is somewhat camouflaged into the background)
 
It's personal preference, and depends on the style of shooting in addition to hunting. Having illumination can make a really big difference for contrast on target and in dimmer light, whether it's time of day or overcast. I like reticles that are not too busy, and have graduations for mil or moa. One of my favourite, but has no illumination is a clean Christmas Tree style like the cabela's covenant:

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I really like the Vortex EBR-7 that's in the Razor AMG. It's the one with a cross in the middle, not an open center. I've used it for coyote hunting in low light scenarios where there is brush and trees and never felt it covers too much of the target.
 
Having used the Horus H-59 and Tremor2 reticles for a few years now, I haven't found any issues with cluttering. With practice, you can focus in on the specific areas of the reticle you need to use (including the straight up crosshair) and ignore the rest.

A lot of the people who claim its "too busy" have likely only ever looked through it in passing, or had their mind already made up. Most people that own them have never been concerned with this, and love them.

To each their own though, so be sure to thoroughly test and try as many reticles as you can get your hands on!
 
I thought about the reticles again, the traditional mil-dot does not work for accurate midrange hold-over (at least not without thousands of round in practice). I think the Horse reticles might be too cluttering for hunting in poor condition, ie. hard to pick up animal in the bush. As [sask378], [xdmer] and [clocked92] said, I think a smaller Christmas tree is a good comprmise. like Bushnell's G3 reticle and Leupold's CCH reticle.

My problem with reticle is its either too simple or too busy. These are just my thoughts, I have not yet experimented with any Horse reticles or CCH/G3/EBR-7.

I'm hoping CGNers like [chrisward3] to tell me how the H59 or Tremor 3 reticle' works under poor light condition(can't see your turret markings) on low contrast target(deer/coyote in brushwood). If it doesn't obscure the target, there is no reason not to have more tools in the toolbox.
 
My Horus is in an S&B 5-25 so it is illuminated (to a degree) and the turrets have the more tactile click feature to tell me where I’m at. Haven’t done much in low light, but the clarity and light transmission of the glass has never given me issues to date.

I’ll mess around with the scope this evening and see if I can mimic the conditions you’re describing. Also, if you’re near the lower Trent valley club, you’re more than welcome to have look through it.
 
Thanks for your offer [chrisward3], it is very generous of you, but I have to pass on that.
I've decided a scaled down Christmas tree reticle is adequate for my use. I can't afford the S&B and with the finicky eye relief of the DMR II, a simpler reticle makes it easier to focus.
I just got a great deal on the Bushnell DMR II-i, I was debating between the Bushnell HDMR/DMR II-i (Tremor2/G3 reticle) and Leupold LRP 4.5-14x50 (CCH reticle). I felt the Leupold is more robust and forgiving on eye relief, but the price of the Bushnell was too good to pass, and most importantly, Leupold LRP doesn't offer illumination. without illumination the reticle turns into a fine duplex in low power ranges, I find it hard to focus. Also the elevation turret of Leupold LRP is a sky scraper, it's unnecessary for my hunting rig.
Anyway, I settled on a Bushnell DMR II-i, it might be on the bottom among the high-performance scopes, but it should do the trick for now. Hopefully, in the future, I will have the fund to upgrade to an S&B 5-25 or 3-20. Thanks again for your offer [chrisward3].

FYI: Bushnell is having a 30% rebate of the purchase price before tax on all rifle scopes. I believe Omar-[Precision Optics] and [Rangeview Sport] from GTA have a lot Bushnells in stock.
 
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