This may be the wrong place for this question.

I took a nice Blacktail 2 years ago with my Ruger 77/357.

Couldn’t have asked for a cleaner kill.
 
Yes you can hunt with handgun cartridges fired from a non restricted long gun platform. I think that is the answer to your question.

The .357 would be enough to ethically take a deer at short range distances 100yrds give or take
 
Yes you can hunt with handgun cartridges fired from a non restricted long gun platform. I think that is the answer to your question.

The .357 would be enough to ethically take a deer at short range distances 100yrds give or take

Brilliant, given my eyesight and local terrain I suspect thats's kinda the max range I'd ever be looking at anyway.
 
Totally legal. 100yds is pretty far for a 357 IMO, the lighter faster loads loose a lot of speed over that much range, while the slower heavier loads have a crap ton of drop.

Don't get me wrong, put it in the boiler room and it'll go down at 100yds, but I would limit myself a bit more than that. Typical energy levels are around 1000ft lbs at 0, 800 at 50, and barely over 500 ft lbs at 100yds.
 
My 158gr loads still have 750+ ft/lbs at 100y. The 180gr load I used on my 50yd quartering shot stopped the buck in his tracks, destroyed its heart and passed through the offside with ease. I would have zero hesitation using the 357 on Blacktail out to 100y. A 100y zero’d rifle is 1” high at 50y, that’s plenty flat shooting for me.

Don’t get me wrong...... but opinions based solely on reading ballistic data don’t add much to the conversation.

A 22lr will kill a deer too. Doesn't mean it's a good choice at 100yds...
 
Yup, and nobody is talking about 22’s here.

Keep reading your tables, I’ll continue basing my posts on actual experience.......

And will you share your experience with the world when you lose an animal because you're using a marginal caliber? The fact your load passed right through tells me it didn't dump very much energy into the animal and likely had very little expansion.

Nah, I'm sure that's impossible, nobody on the internet looses game...

IMO, We owe it to the game we take to use a caliber that is more that just adequate, and will deliver clean kills quickly. You miss the heart with a 357 and that deer can run a long ass ways. Miss the heart with a suitable high velocity rifle cartridge and you will still turn the lungs in to jelly. Personally I don't like aiming for something the size of a baseball that I can't even directly see.
 
.......You miss the heart Miss the heart with a suitable high velocity rifle cartridge and you will still turn the lungs in to jelly.......

And I have witnessed deer being lung shot with a .30-06 and a .300WM from 150 yards (no, not the same one..) and it still ran 250 yards before the back legs dropped out...a heart shot...they may walk about 20 yards...neck and shoulder drops them in their tracks...but that beats up a little fine meat...my point is that it always comes down to shot placement...unless you are shooting on a wide open tundra and can watch them run out of steam without fear of loosing sight of the animal. And then there is the stress to the meat caused by a running death of a game animal to consider - some feel that it toughens the meat...
 
I do love lever guns in a pretty big way, I'll do some more reading on .44 and 30-30.

Look into 35 Remington, and 45-70 too. The 35 Rem will do a 200gr pill at 2100fps or better (LEVERevolution ammo claims 2225 fps, while Buffalo Bore loads a 220gr at 2200 fps).

I've actually wanted to play around with bigger, slower calibers than what I tend to use (270, 243, planning to get a 7mag soon) and was really considering the 35 Rem. I still might go that route if I find a rifle for a good price when I start looking for one, but I'm leaning more towards either a 358win, or a 9.3x62 at this point.
 
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