Island Deer, what gun & caliber?

Mr. Friendly said:
indeed, but with the break up of the bullet, you lose meat and these beasties have very little to begin with. hence the 2000fps velocity at 200 yards...about the slowest it should be to still get proper expansion. it was commented upon in this thread earlier. :p
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They are quite small, and to that scale, a feller shouldn't be overly concerned about expansion.

R.
 
DILLIGAF said:
Who is off 3 inch at 75 yards and less ? Heck Ive seen bow hunters get deer that close...lol... At least im not trophy hunting... And I dont take shots like that when I dont feel comfortable in a clean kill.

Sure beats having to kill a downed deer a point blank because of a missed heart shot. Oh yes you guys dont miss I forgot... "Never a head shot unless he's on the ground to finish him off"
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If the deer takes a step as you fire, the bullet will hit where it was aimed, but the animal will no longer be centered in the reticle. A deer wounded in the body will feel sick and want to lie down. There will be a blood trail to follow. A deer hit in the jaw will run further than you can walk in a day. There will be no blood trail. Your deer will be lost, and you have doomed it to a really unpleasant death. Low percentage shots are never worth the gamble, keep the bullet out of the shoulder if that's your preference, but a lung shot, even with a high velocity small bore, spoils little meat.
 
I've never hunted Haida Guii ( hope to this fall) but if the terrain is like much of Vancouver Island, most of the shots are under 50 yards and often half of that.
 
From my perspective there are those who can use the head shot very effectively at relatively close range............. and there are those who should avoid even considering it........
 
c-fbmi said:
From my perspective there are those who can use the head shot very effectively at relatively close range............. and there are those who should avoid even considering it........
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On a serious note...Every man is entitled to his own shot, knowing that he must live with the consequences after. Ethics are as individual as skill set. Just because one can't and won't, doesn't mean another can and will. The problem becomes knowing, truthfully, what ones limitations are, within their own ethical guidelines and skill set.
Having said that, if one takes enough shots of any kind, he'll eventually miss. That's part of hunting. What happens after that truly defines ethics. If someone hasn't missed, or had an animal get away, then that's great, but it doesn't put them into a position to judge another. We all started somewhere.

R.
 
ratherbefishin said:
Ethics is passing up a marginal shot on a trophy dream buck not just a little two point or a spike
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To you it is, sure, but maybe not to someone else?
Lots of guys throw garbage out their truck windows and sleep just fine at night, obviously.
It's different for everyone, and not up to anyone else to decide, unless laws are being busted.

R.
 
You can't legislate ethics ,and in terms of hunting that means respect for life. Some yahoos will blast way at anything that moves and call it 'sport'or not follow up on their shots and leave an animal to die a miserable death.Sometimes it can't be prevented, but we can try. I failed to recover a bear once and I resolved after that to only take a broadside shoulder shot that would anchor it.

You hit a chord with me on dumping garbage though, I live in rural area,ON THE WAY TO THE DUMP,and people save the $20 tipping fee and still toss their garbage ....I'd love to pick it up and deposit on their front doorstep...
 
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ratherbefishin said:
You can't legislate ethics ,and in terms of hunting that means respect for life. Some yahoos will blast way at anything that moves and call it 'sport'or not follow up on their shots and leave an animal to die a miserable death.Sometimes it can't be prevented, but we can try. I failed to recover a bear once and I resolved after that to only take a broadside shoulder shot that would anchor it.

You hit a chord with me on dumping garbage though, I live in rural area,ON THE WAY TO THE DUMP,and people save the $20 tipping fee and still toss their garbage ....I'd love to pick it up and deposit on their front doorstep...
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Do what I did with a neighbor who intentionally walked his dog over to shyte in our yard every morning and every evening, even though he had his own yard, without picking up the mess, and he continued to do so after repeated requests to desist... gather it up in a 5 gallon pail, mix in some water and return it to its rightful owner... on his porch and on his Porsche. We haven't been seeing him lately.
 
If it was me...

I'd use my Marlin 336 in 35 Rem with the Leupold 1.5-5x20 scope on it. Oh, and I'd use Hornady Lever Evolution 200 grain pills...

Cheers
Jay
 
Glad to have helped! I had a waffle top, had to sell it, need a scope in old age and I sure wasn't going to drill and tap a nice old original rifle... Chuckle

Cheers
Jay

dak47 said:
Dammit, now I'm shopping for a waffle top Marlin in some obscure calibre just cause you echoed what I was thinking...... LMFAO

Dirk
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Jay said:
Glad to have helped! I had a waffle top, had to sell it, need a scope in old age and I sure wasn't going to drill and tap a nice old original rifle... Chuckle

Cheers
Jay
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I shall not either, my tree stand the way it's growing up is a 35 to 50 yd on the outside, hence my new found love of archery. Cheers for the gentle nudge off the edge, new - old Marlin ;) ......


Dirk
 
Hunted VI for over 55 years ....shot a lot of deer, average shot around 50 yards....and in many places,( other than clear cuts) that's as far as you can see
 
Rman said:
Wouldn't that really depend on where and how he hunts?

R.
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If you just still hunted in the timber maybe. Vancouver Island has a lot more to offer than that. There's lot's of logging over here. Huge slashes, lots of open spaces. You could shoot across a valley into a slash. To tell others who haven't hunted here, that most of their shots will be 50 yds and less, just isn't true IMO.
 
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