Anyone ever make a custom .410 slug gun?

[0357]

Was reading about how some guys in the u.s were making .410 slug guns and custom loads and claiming 45/70 like performance.
It's not legal for big game hunting here in Alberta so I doubt anyone would bother.
Still you have to find the inginuity intriguing.
Might be a fun little unique project.

 

[dutchhunter]

Guys use then for deer in ontario .Thy work well. All the guys I know just shoot factory loads .

 

[cath8r]

I thought there was a 20gauge minimum in Ontario.

 

[vagrantviking]

Why not just use a 45-70?

Or if you really want a 40 make a 40-70 based on a blown out 303 case.

What's to be gained with a so-called slug gun?

 

[0357]

I can only assume they most likely hunt in shotgun only zones?
Or just want to be different I guess.
I Just found it interesting what can be done with a .410 is all.

 

[fiddler]

At 1/5th of an ounce from a .410, does very little due to its low energy. I've loaded everything possible into a 410 and its results were always poor. Its easy to make a few comparisons by firing into a couple phone books to see how poor it compares. Its a great chicken gun but expectations should stop there.

 

[Scamaniac]

I thought there was a 20gauge minimum in Ontario.

This only applies to buckshot as opposed to slugs.

 

[enoch]

In Japan you must start with a "rifle" like that. Gunsmiths use a 444 marlin case to make the ammo. I have seen the result and it's efficient.

There was an oufitt in the states that made someting similar for the T/C platform and it seems to perform very well.

 

[dutchhunter]

I thought there was a 20gauge minimum in Ontario.

When loaded with shot

 

[dutchhunter]

At 1/5th of an ounce from a .410, does very little due to its low energy. I've loaded everything possible into a 410 and its results were always poor. Its easy to make a few comparisons by firing into a couple phone books to see how poor it compares. Its a great chicken gun but expectations should stop there.

Factory 410 slugs pass through a deer chest at 50 yards no problem

 

[brybenn]

I used savage 410er tubes in a sxs as a double rifle sort for jacks. They always seemed out of range for shot. Only one barrel was on the other wasnt to far off. I took a few jacks and coons and one unlucky coyote. They were factory loads

However i met an old timer up north with a single shot 410. Hed cut the crimp and dump the shot tben muzzle load an arrow. Scary as it was to watch the results were exillerating

 

[polskiogorki]

I didn't realize you can use 410 slugs on deer , i might have to try it

 

[dutchhunter]

I didn't realize you can use 410 slugs on deer , i might have to try it

Yes you can in ontario.
The regs say the limit is 20g when loaded with shot .a slug is a single projectile. Keep your shots within 50 yards broadside and you'll have a dead deer every time

 

[brybenn]

Many laugh at the 410 slug. They say itll just bounce off a deer but ive never met anyone willing to pace off a 100 yards and try to catch one lol
Ive heard of loading pistol bullets in brass casingsbut ive never done it myself yet

 

[fiddler]

Factory 410 slugs pass through a deer chest at 50 yards no problem

I doubt you've tried it. It won't even go through a phone book. I have to wonder how small of deer that you shoot at? Baby deer with spots?


Get out and actually compare your 410 slug into a phone book and compare it to other rounds. Even when I max pressure the .410 loads or make them heavier, they still have very poor results. The average handgun round does much better.

 

[brybenn]

Takes 3.5-3.75 phone books to stop a 180 gr bullet from my 300 wm at 25 yards. Paper books vrs an animals chest isnt a very good comparison.

Interesting fact about phone books is if you overlap the pages of two phone books page by page two 1/2 ton trucks cant pull them apart
Ive seen deer killed with a slug from a 410. Both ran less than 30 yards til they fell over

 

[dutchhunter]

I doubt you've tried it. It won't even go through a phone book. I have to wonder how small of deer that you shoot at? Baby deer with spots?


Get out and actually compare your 410 slug into a phone book and compare it to other rounds. Even when I max pressure the .410 loads or make them heavier, they still have very poor results. The average handgun round does much better.

I have seen it done three times in person.thank you very much

 

[dutchhunter]

I have seen it done three times in person.thank you very much

Not sure how a phone book has anything to a deer hide and pencil size deer ribs .I have skinned andbutchered hundreds of deer. Thy are not as hard to kill as some people think..

 

[brybenn]

Not sure how a phone book has anything to a deer hide and pencil size deer ribs .I have skinned andbutchered hundreds of deer. Thy are not as hard to kill as some people think..

Think of all the deer killed with buckshot at 40 to 50 yards. Deer die quick when their lungs get a hole thru them.

 

[phil1212]

I doubt you've tried it. It won't even go through a phone book. I have to wonder how small of deer that you shoot at? Baby deer with spots?


Get out and actually compare your 410 slug into a phone book and compare it to other rounds. Even when I max pressure the .410 loads or make them heavier, they still have very poor results. The average handgun round does much better.

Agree a .410 slug is 1/4 ounce at 1800 fps. Less power than some handguns. I've shot deer with slugs and 000 shot. All 12 ga. A .410 slug is marginal. Why even mess about with such a small shotshell. A 3" .410 has 5 pellets of 000 buckshot at about 1130 fps. About .36 cal., 71 grains a ball. A BC of .049,

A .410 shotgun is a novelty, nothing more.