Opinions on the High Standard

marshall said:
Thanks guys , I try.
I have been playing with them for 30+ yrs and owned more than I can count, but turned into a dealer a few years ago so not too many now, my best are Victors and Olympics (22 short rapid fire)
I use to buy factory mags for 30-40.oo up to about 3 yrs ago, then everything went haywire for some reason.
I got 4 in that Western Gun parts had, new ones and my dealer cost is more than I have ever sold a mag for.
After market will work sometimes, good mags are a must for these as there is no ramp, but if the mags are adjusted right, they are 100%, I find the factory spec. to be a bit off.
The lips on these mags are tempered steel and very hard, the aftermarket mags, triple K are soft and work but need tuning as they open up after a while.
I had a hammerli , but did not have the comp in it, and that guns shot everything I put in it and never missed one shell in about 4-5 yrs.
BTW, any of you fellow knew John Taylor, Lucky Dollar Gun Exchange from Sk, that use to do all the gunshows for years , before he past on, he was the one that got me into the Hi Standards
You Hi Standard guys will know what I am talking about when I mention Hi Standard 10X Victor He had one.
BTW, Brownells usally has mags but out last time I looked, Those Texas mags are good. not sure about the guns.
cheers, Marshall
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Thanks Marshall very helpful
 
Regarding making a adjustment tool, I don't think a standard grade 5 bolt will stand up to the pressure, grade 8 maybe, what I used a couple old tread taps I had , 1/4 or 5/16's shank, The square end , and I used a fine dreminiel cut off wheel to cut the slot.
there are wheels of difference thickness made, cheap one are thick, the better ones are thinner, but will break if twisted, or set down hard.
These original mags are hard, be careful, a little is lots , I don't measure any more, eyeball how high/ angle of the cartridge sits in the mag.
I was working on 2 guns for a customer while back , and a lot of miss feeds with 6 mags, one gun , a 107 citation had a missmash of mags , repo.,and Hi Standard all nosed up. This gun had been shot for years with NO extractor in it and with good ammo , worked great, cycled fast. The original owner took it out years ago , because he said you don't need it and it gets in the way ( the present owners daughter), one of the better old bulls eye shoots.
The other was a 104 supermatic trophy
I took the fire pin out of both, and slowly worked the slide by hand with the supplied ammo (Fed )and you could see what was happening, why the fire pins are out, this was in shop, not the range, slide springs out also.
If you one mag the works good, put a few shells in it and the same in the one that don't and look at the angles. the front lips don't want to be tight, the shell/bullet should pass thru with no slop, but very little drag
 
I had one in the eighties, I loved it, a great shooter that ate everything and never failed. Now I wish I never sold it.
 
marshall said:
I have had couple MK1 targets , old ones that had superb triggers in them and shoot very good, almost as good as Hi Standard, but for a beginner would be a good starter gun, the later MK1's will take MK11 mags so you have 10 rd mags
Over the many years Hi Standard use to run in the 400.oo to 600.oo for high end ones with all the stuff, and I sold new original mags for 30.oo-40.oo
But the last 5yrs of so the price on good ones seem to getting higher, 750.oo seems to be the retail price now, but there are deals here at 600.oo yet.
I saw that hi standard with 4 mags and thought , I should buy that, them I went and looked in the vault and don't need any more, I said to myself, but a week or two down the road?
I just finished building a set of grips for a 102 for a fellow I did a deal with at last gun show.
What I have not seen much last while is the 22short kits , especially for the Victors, I have a Olimpic 102 and that is my best shooter, but 22 short ammo is a pita these days
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What are your thoughts on the compensator accessory for the Trophy ?
As stated in my prev post I acquired the one with the 4 mags & would like to fine a factory compensator .
I can't see a need for the weights though as the gun is barrel heavy as it is .
 
High Standard made some of the best .22 target pistols ever.

The prices on some of the better options have done some silly things but there are a lot of folk that will do some silly things to get a hold of a 10x Victor.

The Hamden guns were the most desirable ones as a general rule with a few of the rarity-type exceptions.

Now that the company is up and running again parts haven't been an issue either. Get the mags right, run standard velocity ammo and shoot some amazing targets.
 
Just got back guys, re the comp., they look nice, but I don't think as a shooter they help muck.
I have not checked the Texas website to see if they supply comps , At one time brownells listed them, maybe gunparts, but don't hold much hope for that, and shipping is a problem.
One problem with the comp is that they fill up with carbon and lead and can be a pita to clean, I had one that took me most of the day to clean.
If you have one or find one, make sure that the set screws are backed out far enough when installing it.
I see a lot of these guns with score marks on the end of the barrels from the screws, just sold a trophy Hi Gloss blue about a good 95%+ and there was marks from improper removal of the comp.. would have been a sold 98% other wise I think and it was a shooter, not a safe queen, the fellow I got it from wanted a new s-w victor so he could mount a red dot on it. helps us old farts.
Same with the space gun weights, that are not installed properly in the screw indents.
Good luck finding a comp, I just never see them, they also should have a cleaning took with them , rare as hell also.
years ago when I was trying to clean some of these slide on comps, I made a took out of a old drill bit and shaped it to fit the bottom profile, I believe it was a 5/8 diameter and just used it in the hand, not in a drill, saved a lot of time. Have seen it for a while, may have went in sale when I sold out.
the earlier one 101 and some 102's I think had build in comp on the barrel, my current Olympic is like that, I have pellet pistols that have more recoil than that gun. BTW that gun has the " space barrel" with weights on it, but I don't use weights as a rule, old age thing I guess
Just a quick note on ethe 10X guns , there are hand built guns by their master gunsmiths back in the golden years of the original Hi Standard, there where only a handful of 10X victors made, 20 yrs ago when good guns where selling 400-500.oo for victors and supermatic citations , I know of a 10X victor that sold for 1400.oo U.S. + shipping . At that time , did not have that kind of money.
 
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polaris said:
if you are talking about this model, then yes the High Standard is superior to the Challenger, but make sure it is a Hamden made gun.
If it is not this gun, then the challenger is as good or better (Best is to look for a Belgium made Challenger, like on the second picture)
A Browning Medalist is even a better choice.

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The one I just purchased resembles this one.
Sport King.
Grips are different.
Made in New Haven Conn.

Curious to what I have got myself into.
 
Been studying up on this old gal.
Still can't find the knee age.
It's been noted to use standard velocity ammo.
Some of my supply has 1240/1280 fps on the packaging.
Others have High Velocity stated, but no mention of fps.

Would the 1240/1280 be okay to use with this H/S Sport King?
 
A sport king is a good gun , kind of like buying a truck with out heated and cooled leather seats visa cloth seats, same truck thou. and all the parts are the same inside except one adjustment on the trigger, which you don't need anyway. No gold , but the target don't care about that.
I have never been a real fan of the gold trigger and levers.
 
marshall said:
A sport king is a good gun , kind of like buying a truck with out heated and cooled leather seats visa cloth seats, same truck thou. and all the parts are the same inside except one adjustment on the trigger, which you don't need anyway. No gold , but the target don't care about that.
I have never been a real fan of the gold trigger and levers.
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Is ammo a concern for the well being of this old gal?
What's the odds you have a decent set of grips for her?
 
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Posted: December 20, 2007 06:38 PM
There are a few "Sport-King" High Standards. The first was the 1950 vintage..these had eithe 4.5" or 6.75" round barrels the grip frame is sharply angled(sharper than the Colt Model 1911 45) Early version did not lock the sldie back on an empty magazine. The series 100 offered the Sport King SK-100 was next. This added the push button takedown feature..it still utilized the non militayr grip angle. In that same series were the Sport-King Lightweight SK-100. The next version was the Sport King from the 102-103 series circa 1958 to 1978. The first Sport-King with the military grip frame was the Model made from 1978 to 1981 it was identical to the 103 except for the frame angle.next was the Model 107 Sport King..1981-83. The "last" was a Houston TX produced version an mil grip w/adj sights. The serial number you give shows up in the year 1952 which would make yours one of these:Catalog Numbers:9080 for 4.5' barrel1950 to 1954- 335001-442604 or it could have part of the combination package that supplied both the 4.5" and 6.75" barrels: 9082 for Combination 1951-1953-37699-442570 BTW Your gun should be what is known as a "lever" model later versions were push button takedown. "

Personal note on ammo. Don't feed the High Standards HV ammo, or any target grade 22. Will cause bolt face and chamber face peening over time which may lead to doubling. Sv ammo should be less than 1100fps.
 
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This gal is older’n moi.
First three digits start with 348***
Curious to know where to find a set of grips
and which grips fit what.
Great info posted on’eat.

Thanks folks.
 
Try Google High Standard Model Listings by John Stimson. Yours looks like a Lever Name Model mfr between 1950 to 1954. sn start at 335,012 and end 442,572. Looks like you have a real early model. My Supermatic Citation was one of the last made at the Hamden factory before it was destroyed by fire. Great guns, very accurate, it might even have a little edge on my S&W Model 41 (might-depends on the day)
 
Sonnamah-gun.............. getting close.
Rear sight is adjustable on this one.
Should go gitt'r tomorrow.


Sport King
.22 LR caliber pistol with 10 shot magazine. Light weight round barrel; blued finish; fixed sights; brown plastic thumb rest grips. Available with 4.50"or 6.75" barrels or combination with both barrels. Early models did not have a slide hold back when magazine empty. Early variation without hold back were produced in about twice the quantity as the later models incorporating this feature.
caliber Barrel Grips Sights Finish Cat No. From Thru From SN Thru SN
.22 Long Rifle 4.50" Checkered plastic Fixed Blue 9080 1950 1954 335,001 442,605
.22 Long Rifle 6.75" Checkered plastic Fixed Blue 9081 1950 1954 335,012 442,572
.22 Long Rifle 4.50" & 6.75" Checkered plastic Fixed Blue 9082 1951 1953 337,699 442,574
 
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