S&W collector question

Johnn Peterson said:
Hey Ivan;
Good to hear from you!! I was thinking about you the other day when a club member was trying to deal me out of my/your Kimber Super Match II. ;) He has a dream but that's about as far as he's going to get with that little Princess.
Oh, the M27 is when S&W tried to replicate a Python :p. ;) And yes, the Moose is still on the loose. Take care Bud.
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Look at my Avatar it's a 5" M27 LoL
 
marshall said:
..I am also a Stanley tool collector and the U.S. have declared old Rosewood as a protected wood, so guys selling old Stanley planes with rosewood totes ( handles) are getting them seized by the US customs when they are shipping out of the country ...
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I should look more carefully at the old tools I often see in Aladdin's Antiques in Bellingham. I think there were a few old Stanley planes in a display case yesterday...

Johnn Peterson said:
And to think we actually elect and pay these people to govern the country.
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As George & Ira Gershwin wrote, "Nice work if you can get it..." (even if it doesn't actually refer to becoming a civil servant. Still a great song.)
 
Yes, importation to the US is something to be careful of. We are looking at moving to AZ permanently when I retire in a couple years, and I've already been looking at exporting my gun (and whisky) collection to the US. The only issue is Ivory stocks and kit on my Colt Python (Canadian province Alberta). I've heard two different answers so far, A: I can't export because of ivory ban, and B: I can export since it originated in US and I have paperwork to prove it, so it can come back. I've got a couple years to figure it out.

Don't know how I'm going to explain those S&W ivory stocks that Johnn is going to trade me for whisky....lol
 
Twisted Canuck said:
Yes, importation to the US is something to be careful of. We are looking at moving to AZ permanently when I retire in a couple years, and I've already been looking at exporting my gun (and whisky) collection to the US. The only issue is Ivory stocks and kit on my Colt Python (Canadian province Alberta). I've heard two different answers so far, A: I can't export because of ivory ban, and B: I can export since it originated in US and I have paperwork to prove it, so it can come back. I've got a couple years to figure it out.

Don't know how I'm going to explain those S&W ivory stocks that Johnn is going to trade me for whisky....lol
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I've had two offers from a couple of state side gentlemen and one of the two assures me he can bring them in, no problem. How I don't know. Perhaps he's taken a page out of the old movie 'Thunder Road' :p . Load up and go for it ;) .
 
Johnn Peterson said:
I've had two offers from a couple of state side gentlemen and one of the two assures me he can bring them in, no problem. How I don't know. Perhaps he's taken a page out of the old movie 'Thunder Road' :p . Load up and go for it ;) .
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Well, they did originate (as finished, factory stocks) on a Made in the USA M27....i think there must be a way for (me) to take them back to the US....:)
 
ALL Ivory is a controlled substance under CITES, the Convention on International Trade on Endangered Species. Importing or exporting without permission from CITES (permits) will result in forfeiture, fines, and a lot of Red Flags being attached to you in too many databases to mention. Most countries are a signatory to this treaty.

Be very careful. Smuggling CITES controlled items will not end well for you or anyone.
 
hatman1793 said:
ALL Ivory is a controlled substance under CITES, the Convention on International Trade on Endangered Species. Importing or exporting without permission from CITES (permits) will result in forfeiture, fines, and a lot of Red Flags being attached to you in too many databases to mention. Most countries are a signatory to this treaty.

Be very careful. Smuggling CITES controlled items will not end well for you or anyone.
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Thank you for the appropriate info (warning). Yes, I was aware that there were some serious consequences to moving ivory across the border without the proper paperwork, and if I do move down south will have it all done properly for sure. What I need to determine is if it is even possible, or not. As I said, I had two different answers, but I tend to lean towards B: yes it can be exported (with all the appropriate paperwork in place) because it originated in the USA.

If for some reason I can't take it with me when I go.....I may have to stay! Not sure I could give this one up!!DSC_2601.jpg
 

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There are different rules with ivory that's been manufactured to something else. I have to look in my old manuals or talk to one of the experts at work regarding it.

Here's a question for you Johnn, you said that your friend bought the nickel plated M27 that the grips were on? How long ago was this? When I was a teen in the early 80's, I remember one of my father's friends having a nickel M27 with what I thought were funny looking grips (it looks so much better on a blued gun by the way) We were at the Barnet shooting club when I saw it.
 
heybert said:
There are different rules with ivory that's been manufactured to something else. I have to look in my old manuals or talk to one of the experts at work regarding it.

Here's a question for you Johnn, you said that your friend bought the nickel plated M27 that the grips were on? How long ago was this? When I was a teen in the early 80's, I remember one of my father's friends having a nickel M27 with what I thought were funny looking grips (it looks so much better on a blued gun by the way) We were at the Barnet shooting club when I saw it.
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The gentleman that purchased the 5" nickel M27 just acquired it, roughly two years back. He purchased it from the same guy I got the grips from, ;) years ago. That guy, the original owner of the gun & grips, was employed at a sporting goods retail outlet in Victoria and later actually had his own shop in the same area. I agree, they do look better on a blued gun. On something like the 5" nickel M27, I'd go with something along the line of dark rosewood or a darker set of goncalo alves at least. :) I like the contrast in colour.
 
If the grips are original on the Mod 27 nickel it will be worth even more as a whole package!
 
That would be the smart answer, and if you do go south, I will be glad to look after the snake for you.
I had one years ago, but it did not have all the extras, like yours,, gold on it, but no Ivory ; And I can't remember what it was , some Commemorative, I keep forgetting to dig out the old ledgers to look it up, Old age and feeble mind, I guess.
Twisted Canuck said:
Really, it would only be fair if he sold you the nickel 27. Tell him TC said so!
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Johnn Peterson said:
The gentleman that purchased the 5" nickel M27 just acquired it, roughly two years back. He purchased it from the same guy I got the grips from, ;) years ago. That guy, the original owner of the gun & grips, was employed at a sporting goods retail outlet in Victoria and later actually had his own shop in the same area. I agree, they do look better on a blued gun. On something like the 5" nickel M27, I'd go with something along the line of dark rosewood or a darker set of goncalo alves at least. :) I like the contrast in colour.
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Something like this Johnn?

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