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I got to handle a Model 1941 for sale at the local gun show tonight. Certainly a rarity in Canada. Does anyone know roughly what these rifles go for, and how many(or rather how few) might actually be in Canada?

Thanks!
 
They are unique rifles and forgotten for their contributions to future firearms development, but a lot of people tend to confuse US prices for CANADIAN prices.
 
I've seen a few at local shows and a common price seems to be $2600 (Can). Condition all over the page from blatantly refinished to very well worn. Definitely worth a lot more in the US. I own a very well worn one and find it to be a very interesting action. Replacement parts are tough to obtain but I think I'll be giving mine a test at the range this year.

milsurpo
 
Mac308 said:
They are unique rifles and forgotten for their contributions to future firearms development, but a lot of people tend to confuse US prices for CANADIAN prices.
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Your correct people do tend to confuse our market with down south... I stumbled in a Johnson a while back and was blown away by what it was worth.
 
Thanks for the feedback. This particular rifles definately had some hard miles on it. Was asking $3200.

I think those long recoil actions are very interesting.
 
The_Champ said:
Thanks for the feedback. This particular rifles definately had some hard miles on it. Was asking $3200.

I think those long recoil actions are very interesting.
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Yes, even if you don't own one, the book by Canfield (Johnson Rifles and Machine Guns) is a good read.

milsurpo
 
Gunpartscorp has some parts. Most of the Century imports I think
came from southeast asia. That would explain their condition.
 
Pics? Condition? Like putting up a car ad for a 1969 Chevrolet. Was it an L88 427 Corvette or a Station Wagon. The mystery is in the description, which just isn't here!

The_Champ said:
I got to handle a Model 1941 for sale at the local gun show tonight. Certainly a rarity in Canada. Does anyone know roughly what these rifles go for, and how many(or rather how few) might actually be in Canada?

Thanks!
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The_Champ said:
Thanks for the feedback. This particular rifles definately had some hard miles on it. Was asking $3200.

I think those long recoil actions are very interesting.
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That's about the price range I've seen the last couple go for... Condition is everything of course.
 
The Johnson had a tendency for the firing pin to stick in the out position and cause the rifle to slamfire out of battery. I personally experienced this happening. The stock dissintegrated as the bolt slammed back and bent the action. Bits of brass and wood went everywhere. As luck would have it I was in the process of cocking it and did not have it on my shoulder or I would have most likely lost an eye. The rifle had just been fired by two other people.
 
rigrat said:
The Johnson had a tendency for the firing pin to stick in the out position and cause the rifle to slamfire out of battery. I personally experienced this happening. The stock dissintegrated as the bolt slammed back and bent the action. Bits of brass and wood went everywhere. As luck would have it I was in the process of cocking it and did not have it on my shoulder or I would have most likely lost an eye. The rifle had just been fired by two other people.
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Holy crap. Sounds like these rifles are to be admired and perhaps not shot.
 
I was at that show this afternoon, I had never seen one of those rifles in person before. It was a distinct contribution to value returned for the price of admission.
 
rigrat said:
The Johnson had a tendency for the firing pin to stick in the out position and cause the rifle to slamfire out of battery. I personally experienced this happening. The stock dissintegrated as the bolt slammed back and bent the action. Bits of brass and wood went everywhere. As luck would have it I was in the process of cocking it and did not have it on my shoulder or I would have most likely lost an eye. The rifle had just been fired by two other people.
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Never heard this before. Some of them are now in pretty questionable condition but a tendency to slam-fire originally isn't mentioned in references.

milsurpo
 
rigrat said:
The Johnson had a tendency for the firing pin to stick in the out position and cause the rifle to slamfire out of battery. I personally experienced this happening. The stock dissintegrated as the bolt slammed back and bent the action. Bits of brass and wood went everywhere. As luck would have it I was in the process of cocking it and did not have it on my shoulder or I would have most likely lost an eye. The rifle had just been fired by two other people.
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For a 1941 Johnson to slam fire there has to be a broken firing pin or a missing firing pin retainer and it also has a firing pin spring.to keep this from happening

I disassembled my own rifle again tonight to confirm that the firing pin is completely retracted through the camming action of the two piece bolt,this retracts the firing pin as soon
as the bolt unlocks,also assisted by the firing pin spring.
I bought mine a year ago and as with every firearm I buy I do a complete disassembly to check for any problems it may have,another thing I do with my semi's I make a dummy round
with a live primer NO POWDER of course and cycle it through the action a number of times and check if the firing pin leaves any marks on the primer,the Johnson leaves absolutely
no mark on the primer so in my opinion it is safe to shoot,which I have done,maybe 100 rounds so far but as the weather gets nicer I will certainly take her out again,love shooting the old girl,very innovative design of locking that lives on in the AR15 and a number of other rifles.
 
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