Campro Plated Bullets and Hodgson CFE Pistol powder

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I bought some Campro 180gr. 40 cal. bullets but would like to use Hodgson CFE Pistol powder.
Their load data doesn't list it. I looked at the Hodgson data for a rough idea. Is anyone using this combo?
TIA
 
I'm using the same combination for my M and P 5" pro . Really like it and is probably my most accurate range load . Started on the low end and found accuracy and function right away so I never got near the top end of the scale . Really like the CFE .
This is for Berry's plated bullets but same data for Campro

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Case: Hornady Twist: 1:16" Primer: Winchester SP, Small Pistol Barrel Length: 4" Trim Length: .845"
BULLET WEIGHT
180 GR. BERB FP
Starting Loads Maximum Loads
Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam.
C.O.L. Grs.
Vel. (ft/s)
Pressure
Grs.
Vel. (ft/s)
Pressure
Hodgdon CFE Pistol .400" 1.125" 5.9 1,007 25,500 PSI 6.5 1,092 32,600 PSI
 
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If you compare 357 CamPro 158 gr Data with that of Hogdon’s Hornady XTP’s they’re copied verbatim. Also the surface area that rides in the barre (shank) is the same dimensions.

I’d start with the Data provided by Hogdon for 40 S&W Hornady XTP’s of the same weight. YMMV.
 
I shoot a lot of Campro 158 grain 38/357 and 240 grain 44 magnum bullets from low to top end of the load data and have had no issues which is about the same as Hornady XTP’s. The XTP’s do have better accuracy but the Campro ones are close. Can’t see the 40 being any different.
 
Campro's plating is .008'', which is as thick as a jacketed bullet (except for the 148grn HBWC which are .0025''). Use the jacketed load data. In Hodgdon's database, the hornady XTP are jacketed, you can use that load with campro.

The BERB are Berry's Bullets, they are plated bullets, very similar to campro but with a thinner plating, so you could use those loads too.
 
I use Campro 240@1400 in my 44 Blackhawk and 250 over 26gr H110 in my 45LC Mares Leg. My experience is that they are interchangeable with XTP pressure wise.
 
1340 said:
That's why I hesitate to use just any data.
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Hodgdon, the powder company that has pressure testing instruments has the same to say:
Lead bullets and copper plated lead bullets yield very similar pressure and velocity results, so when the weights are the same, the same data may be used for each. Jacketed Lead core bullets come in a variety of configurations. Jacketed Hollow points and Jacketed Flat points of the same weight use the same data. Round nosed, lead core, full metal jacketed bullets of the same weight can also use the same data.
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http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/rel...a-do-i-use-when-my-specific-bullet-not-listed
 
4n2t0 said:
Regardless of what "they" say you're still wrong. Anyone who loads CamPro knows they behave like FMJ bullets.
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Based on your CUP/PSI testing equipment?
So what do you base it on? "Pressure signs?" In pistols that are running 15,000-35,000psi you won't see any pressure signs.
 
Use jacketed data with CAMPRO bullets.

Here is what CAMPRO says;

http://campro.ca/en/faq

4- Are the standard FMJ loads appropriate for CamPro projectiles?

Yes. Standard FMJ loads are appropriate for CamPro projectiles because the 8 mils copper plated coating behaves like the conventional copper jacket.
 
I also got better results crimping separately from seating with CAMPRO.

Even with a heavy crimp the plating stays fully intact :)
 
Hitzy said:
Based on your CUP/PSI testing equipment?
So what do you base it on? "Pressure signs?" In pistols that are running 15,000-35,000psi you won't see any pressure signs.
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The point is that campro's process makes their bullet more similar to jacketed than plated. Although copper is electro-plated and not jacketed, the end result is a layer of copper that's as thick as any jacketed bullet.
 
VinnyQC said:
The point is that campro's process makes their bullet more similar to jacketed than plated. Although copper is electro-plated and not jacketed, the end result is a layer of copper that's as thick as any jacketed bullet.
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Their 8thou plating is really no thicker then any other plated bullet, 8thou is the average, thick plating starts at 15thou, THIN jacket bullets start at 25thou and go up from there. Speer uses the thickest plating from what I can find with the GD pills, they even had a plated rifle line (Deepcurl) which was impressive.
Anyway if your loading under 1200fps you won't have any issues with 8thou plating. That's what it's designed for...cheap plinking that is safer then lead and cheaper then jacketed. Run them too hot and there are several issues that can arise, which is also a good reason to load to lead velocity.
 
.008” plated will be fine for Magnum loads, I used Berry’s 50EA bullets loaded to MAX with Win296 and had great results.


Who makes a thinker plated bullet than CAMPRO?
 
Have been using campro for year and I am a distributor. IF in doubt send them an email and their ballistic specialists will give you a proper explanation why you can use FMJ loads.
 
Dsiwy said:
.008” plated will be fine for Magnum loads, I used Berry’s 50EA bullets loaded to MAX with Win296 and had great results.


Who makes a thinker plated bullet than CAMPRO?
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Speer Gold dots are 18-20 thou, not sure about the TMJ line but I'll take a look.
Found a bit of info:
Speer TMJ: .015"
Berry's Thick Plated (TP): .012"
PowerBond: .010"-.011"
So there are several thicker plated options then CamPro out there.
 
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