new to precision rifles, want to start a build need advices.

I sold my HST for an S111 and dont regret it one bit. Cant go wrong there. You can always save a few bucks and buy a used one.

Also got a NF SHV 5-20 that I recommend too.
 
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vince514 said:
Vortex viper HST 6-24x50 Whats your opinion on this?
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Typically hunting and PRS have very different zoom range requirements... IMO 6X is a lot of zoom to hunt with unless you are hunting at 250+ yards, and even when I've done the odd competition, I don't tend to make it to 24X until I am out at 500 yards, but the vortex PST is a great bang for the buck piece of glass (I prefer it over the HST as it is FFP). If you don't get down behind better glass, I'd wager you'll be very happy with it to the point where you'd recommend it to your friends, and chide those that buy better/fancier glass. I don't want to sound like I am knocking it, because it is what I'd recommend you get..... You can spend twice as much, and you WILL get a better scope, but will it be twice as good? How do you quantify it?
 
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Can you guys tell me difference between pst and hst ?
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Off the top of my head....
PST is FFP, and has an option for a better reticle IMO (good for holds, both drop and wind)
HST is SFP, and has a simpler reticle (which isn't as useful for holds)
 
First focal plane vs Second focal plane.

Stay away from Vortex Viper. While some people seem to think they work I haven’t experienced that. They do not track correctly making them crap for long distance shooting.
 
I had the Nightforce SHV 4-14 F1 Mil-R. It's a nice scope. Super solid, tracks perfectly, nice glass. Not the best reticle in my opinion but definitely usable. I used mine for most of a season of shooting PRS-type matches and made hits with it out to 1200 yards. Shot it at 1000 routinely. It's a pretty perfect compromise in terms of price and features for a scope doing double duty for hunting and matches, imo.

FFP= first focal plane. That means that as you change the magnification setting, the reticle changes proportionately. That means that the subtensions (hashmarks on the reticle) are correct no matter what magnification you are at. This makes it superior for shooting at different distances under time constraints.

SFP= second focal plane. That means that the reticle is always the same size, no matter what magnification setting your are on. Because of this, the subtensions are only correct at one mag setting, normally full power.
 
Buy once cry once! Buy a rifle purpose build for the job, and reputation behind it. Avoid the headaches of building or custom rifles!! Save a little longer and go with an AIAX.308 or MC if that's to pricey try a TRG 22, you could get a TRG and slick optic for 5K. I recently considered both rifles and they are very comparable, both seeing service in current armed forces around the world and as accurate as they come. I opted for the AX308, the quick change barrel and mag well design did it for me plus I believe the AX is lighter than the TRG.

Cheers!

Nate
 
Nate.308 said:
Buy once cry once! Buy a rifle purpose build for the job, and reputation behind it. Avoid the headaches of building or custom rifles!! Save a little longer and go with an AIAX.308 or MC if that's to pricey try a TRG 22, you could get a TRG and slick optic for 5K. I recently considered both rifles and they are very comparable, both seeing service in current armed forces around the world and as accurate as they come. I opted for the AX308, the quick change barrel and mag well design did it for me plus I believe the AX is lighter than the TRG.

Cheers!

Nate
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If we are throwing that out there, I'll recommend a barrett MRAD, I ####ing LOVE mine. If for some reason you can't hit your prey, you can certainly club it to death.... lol
 
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