Don't clean the bore??!!!

What are you cleaning out? If lead is laying down after each shot and creating a build up it will alter the shape and thus.flight of the bullet affecting accuracy and cleaning out the built up lead wouldn't be a bad idea. Copper washed bullets can deposit copper as well and sometimes the copper needs cleaning out. Most loose debris gets pushed out by the next shot. It's the metal that is stuck to the bore that needs to be removed....when it's there.
 
BaBam said:
Are brass cleaning rods okay? Like those in a Herter's cleaning kit?
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Compared to a larger rod, a smaller rod tends to be less stiff. Compared to a one-piece rod, a segmented rod tends to be less stiff. Compared to a steel rod, a brass rod tends to be less stiff. And the fact that brass is softer than steel doesn't do much for you because the problem isn't necessarily the rod, it's the grit embedded in it's surface.

A quality, one-piece, coated steel rod, properly sized-to-the-bore, combined with the proper accessories (including proper rod guides), is a better alternative.

While it's not what you want to hear, it's the truth.
 
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I think I ####ed up a beauty of a Winchester bolt action .22 by getting an aluminum rod stuck in it. Never shot well again.

Should have never touched it.
 
Wendell said:
Compared to a larger rod, a smaller rod tends to be less stiff. Compared to a one-piece rod, a segmented rod tends to be less stiff. Compared to a steel rod, a brass rod tends to be less stiff. And the fact that brass is softer than steel doesn't do much for you because the problem isn't necessarily the rod, it's the grit embedded in it's surface.

A quality, one-piece, coated steel rod, properly sized-to-the-bore, combined with the proper accessories (including proper rod guides), is a better alternative.

While it's not what you want to hear, it's the truth.
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It is the truth. Do not clean any firearm unless you have the proper equipment and know how to use it. When it comes to cleaning a .22LR bore, there are many bore cleaning products that will do the job (see for example https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...9-Gun-Cleaners-and-Lube-The-Best-of-the-Bunch!)

When it comes to the basics, however, there are some elementary rules that should be followed. Clean from the breech; use a bore guide (which should be called a rod guide); and use a one-piece rod. Some folks say on a .22 a .20 rod is better; I've never had issue with a .22 caliber rod -- even on CZ's on which many on RFC say a .20 cal. rod is necessary. The rod need not be coated, although many like rods such as the Dewey coated ones. If a good and stiff rod is used with a bore guide the rod will not touch the sides of the bore. Steel rods are among the best, although carbon fiber rods can serve very well. I have both kinds.

Be sure to use the correct size brushes and jags. It's a good idea test to find out the size (or quantity) of the patches to be used rather than putting them on a jag and then finding it a challenge to get them through the bore (or pulled back out).
 
As a janitor I know the value of cleaning everything that we use, but prefer to use a weedwacker line to protect the bore of my rifles.I run a patch through them after I shoot, and they shoot great after decades of use.......Marlins 60's are hard to take apart so they don't want folks to wreck them by cleaning.That's the reason for the Marlin manual quote.
 
Sir Plus said:
Why in the world would you clean your bore every outing if you’re not shooting corrosive
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Because I shoot enough in one session to foul the barrel to the degree that peak accuracy is lost, and I care about maintaining my firearms. Leaving combustion residue and fouling in the bore attracts moisture, which leads to pitting over time. Laziness is not an excuse for failing to maintain your rifles.
 
rabidm4u5 said:
those who shoot highly accurate rifles know that cleaning is a must to maintain gilt edge accuracy, and notice that such accuracy will fade at around the 100 shot mark in a rifle with a tight, match chamber. We're talking like an average increase to group size of 0.1", or more frequent fliers, most shooters wouldn't even notice that, but that'll lose you a benchrest competition.

If 1/2"-1" at 50 yards will do for you, clean only as often as necessary to maintain that and prevent corrosion in the bore.
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pay attention to this membere, he is dead on
 
I run my guns dirty as long as I can. I feel that way any time I pick one up, it will shoot just like last time.

If you're cleaning all the time, its going to shoot different every time. Dirty/clean/dirty/clean/etc....

Except my .338 where I don't put a lot of rounds through it. Keeping it clean makes sense, to me.
 
I can see this particular situation mattering. Which is why I clean my .338 more frequently and after fewer shots, than on my Mil type, and .22 fire arms.
But for most people in most cases, I don't think they need to clean so frequently.

Edit: this was a reply to someone about bench shooting. IDK why it didn't quote.
 
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