Norinco M305 quality question

You can get a forged norc bolt for around the $100 mark and have it fitted to your reciever. The usgi bolts are expensive
But be warned that it's possible that no other bolt will fit your reciever. That's what happened to my m305. M14 medic couldn't fix it no bolt he tried would fit it other then the factory mim bolt
I ended up sending the gun to North Sylva for diagnosis, I haven't heard a peep from them since so who knows what's happening with it
You may be money ahead to just return it while you still can
 
rci2950 said:
Did i at least get a good receiver? Ugh.

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Yes July 1994 forged.
 
Deathrawt said:
You can get a forged norc bolt for around the $100 mark and have it fitted to your reciever. The usgi bolts are expensive
But be warned that it's possible that no other bolt will fit your reciever. That's what happened to my m305. M14 medic couldn't fix it no bolt he tried would fit it other then the factory mim bolt
I ended up sending the gun to North Sylva for diagnosis, I haven't heard a peep from them since so who knows what's happening with it
You may be money ahead to just return it while you still can
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That would be very odd. Could it be he could not make it work without a barrel change? That would make more sense. You can't ream chromed chambers.
 
So i called North Sylva on the phone and asked them how many are coming back with sheared bolt lugs. He told me he sells tens of thousands of them and he has gotten a handful back for this issue. He said the failure rate is less then 1 percent. I want to believe him
 
1% of 10,000 is 100. .5% of 10,000 is 50. That is a lot more than a "handful".
A "less than 1%" failure rate for something like broken off locking lugs is unacceptable. How many other rifles being sold are shedding locking lugs?
Maybe tens of thousands of M305s sold. How many with MIM bolts? These are rather new on the market. Can't be tens of thousands of them.
 
rci2950 said:
So i called North Sylva on the phone and asked them how many are coming back with sheared bolt lugs. He told me he sells tens of thousands of them and he has gotten a handful back for this issue. He said the failure rate is less then 1 percent. I want to believe him
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I wonder how many actually were returned to them - in other words how many shooters had sheared bolts that took them somewhere else to have the bolt replaced.

And from what i have rea here, it doesnt sound like NS is doing much on the warranty front. I would suggest you return it to the retailer if possible
 
tiriaq said:
1% of 10,000 is 100. .5% of 10,000 is 50. That is a lot more than a "handful".
A "less than 1%" failure rate for something like broken off locking lugs is unacceptable. How many other rifles being sold are shedding locking lugs?
Maybe tens of thousands of M305s sold. How many with MIM bolts? These are rather new on the market. Can't be tens of thousands of them.
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sounds like our minister of safety Goodale should get involved in a recall, and protect law abiding citizens.
 
1-trident-1 said:
sounds like our minister of safety Goodale should get involved in a recall, and protect law abiding citizens.
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Many Western countries have state proof houses, and mandate proof testing, as a safety measure.
If the Government really wanted to put the screws to firearm ownership, they could establish a proof house, and mandate that in the interest of public safety, no firearm could be transferred unless it had passed through the proof house. In a few years, again in the interest of public safety, they could prohibit possession of any firearm which had not been proofed. And the proof house would be about the size of the SFSS. Heck, the SFSS could assume a proof testing function.
 
Well. I messaged the store i bought it from (Halifax Army Navy) and they took the time to dig through their entire stock of M305 and found me one with a forged receiver and forged bolt AND a properly indexed barrel! I just got back home from swapping out. I love these guys. The seriously have the best customer service.


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Canada tail said:
The quality is nowhere near what they used to be. The bolt is made of very cheap metal.
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The receivers are the same batch since the early 1990's. Its really only the bolts that are sometimes bad, though the newest cast receivers are a little sketchy.

The metal in the mim bolts is not bad per se, it's that mim is not an appropriate process for this high stress part.
 
rci2950 said:
So i called North Sylva on the phone and asked them how many are coming back with sheared bolt lugs. He told me he sells tens of thousands of them and he has gotten a handful back for this issue. He said the failure rate is less then 1 percent. I want to believe him
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What fantastic responsible corporate citizens! They already know that "ONLY 1 percent of these guns have failed" , & No plans for a recall ?
So, we are supposed to trust their greed to buy their products in the future , or just hope that we will be lucky enough to fall into the 99 percent section .
 
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