Again, the law doesn't say its strictly about design, it stated its also about what it is manufactured for.
Youza.
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Again, the law doesn't say its strictly about design, it stated its also about what it is manufactured for.
Youza.
A large number of the BC mags were built and sold before the charger ever existed. How can those mags be designed or manufactured for a gun that didn't exist at the time?
Although this could be a valid point in court, the fact that there is no functionnal difference between older mags and currently manufactured ones my make it more complicated legally speaking.
Youza.
I have this great idea, why not just make it illegal to use the BX 25 unpinned in the Ruger Charger........ whew that was hard to come up with lol
Its not that its hard to come up with, its just that its not how the current law is written.
Youza.
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And we let the RCMP do it.
Any letters and emails I sent to MPs on the topic of Ruger 10/22 got shot back out to me claiming no MP has the balls to step up and over RCMP opinions and their interpretation of the laws they enforce. I would gladly purchase BX25s over Butler Creeks 25rd magazines. I would purchase a couple of them right now if I felt we could unpin them legally in the near future.
Because those e-petitions have made a difference (eye roll)
Any letters and emails I sent to MPs on the topic of Ruger 10/22 got shot back out to me claiming no MP has the balls to step up and over RCMP opinions and their interpretation of the laws they enforce. I would gladly purchase BX25s over Butler Creeks 25rd magazines. I would purchase a couple of them right now if I felt we could unpin them legally in the near future.
Because those e-petitions have made a difference (eye roll)
Then pony up the lawsuit money, then we get a decision for sure. Otherwise, Hical is wise to pin them.
Or our officials. If the Mares leg can be legally a rifle in Canada, why not the charger?
True.. I have a 8.5 inch shotgun with a pistol grip and it’s restricted as a shotgun and not classified as a handgun due to the reciever being the same as the full-size shotgun (I had a nice long agruement with the RCMP about that one as they wanted to register it as a handgun when I was reclassify it). the charger should of been classified as a rifle since it’s the same reciever as a 10/22 rifle. Unless I’m wrong and the reciever is different.
Same I didn't know if this was law or not I pinned 2 of my butler Creek 10/22 mags Because I thought they would be a prohibited device now. I kind of wanted to toss em'
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Agree or disagree with this ill conceived “law” businesses must have them pinned or lose their dealer license.
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Thanks for posting this. I missed the manufacturing part. That coupled with the BX25 being marketed for the charger on the packaging(as I'm told), made up my mind. It's definitely not legal.
However, this only strengthens my resolve about the Butler creek magazines. Also the gsg 110 drums make no mention about the charger on packaging from what I've seen and are designed for the rifle.. Why don't businesses import those instead, they are what we need prevelant up here.
The gsg drums are a particularly interesting story. If I'm not mistaken, they were once deemed also charger mags. Gsg changed the packaging and what was written on the mags themselves, and that was sufficient to retain the full capacity without pinning. At least that's what I heard... Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Like I stated before and a very reputable dealer stated this as well.....RCMP opinion is NOT LAW.....I shoot my 25 rounder freely as as far as concerned...rimfire magazine capacity is unlimited which is outlined in the firearms act
captainamazing
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Agreed. The idea that the BX25 is prohibited based on what was printed on the package rather than its functionality is absurd and embarrassing as a country. Firearm laws should not be this complicated nor should they be 100% geared at creating "paper criminals".
Fact#1: The RCMP approved the Charger knowing it took 25 rounds mags. (Butler Creek and others)
Fact#2: The RCMP is attempting to ban 25 round mags because they can be used in the Charger.
This sounds like a problem created by the RCMP by either ineptitude or subterfuge. Pick one, either one is a scary as the other.
...as opposed to what other option, exactly?
Can you point to a legal mechanism under which it is possible to prohibit guns based on what mags fit in them?
And would you really be happier if that mechanism existed?
No, its a problem that is objectively created by how the laws where written by lawmakers.
Youza.
The Bx25 was invented AFTER the charger. Therefore, it is designed and manufactured for both the charger and 10/22, and must be pinned to 10.
Meanwhile, the BC mags were patented in 1978, more than 20 years before the charger existed. An argument can be made that all BC mags manufactured after the charger was released are charger mags, however that same argument makes no sense for all the magazines produced before the charger got released, because how can a magazine be manufactured or designed for a gun that does not exist yet?
