Which cheap pistol would you recomend?

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I am venturing into the restricted field of guns. I recently bought a tokarev and I like it but its not on the never sell list. I am trying to find a pistol to put on the never sell list. All my long guns are now on the never sell list so I need a hand gun to match it.

I am not new to pistols, I have professional training with the hi power, glock and M&P. So I would be wanting a DAO, striker fire or SAO. Not interested in the DA/SA because of my handgun experience and I don't like the idea of multiple trigger pulls. I have also found the reset to be awfully long on DA/SA guns. They also often have a very long take up. I could be convinced otherwise. The tricky part is the price. I am looking in the 300-400ish price, not at all opposed to used. With our laws being what they are I just can't justify the any more money on a range only gun. If I could take it to crown land I would buy something nicer. I have decided I don't care if it is plastic or metal frame. Metal frame is a bonus in case I need to pistol whip zombies, so not really a priority there. Must be 9mm

I would be using mostly for going to the range to make noise and make holes in paper. I have been interested in 3 gun so mags need to be buyable since you need 4 or 5 of them. I am not expecting to win just have fun. I would be that guy showing up with an sks and 28"barrel Winchester 1200

I have done internet research but that's just sitting at the computer. This is the final research step. I have narrowed things down to:

- Norinco 9mm 1911. I have owned norinco so I know I am gambling on quality.
- Girsan MC28. They seem decent and are copies of the M&P which I like and are familiar with
- Sig P250. a bit of a stretch in cost but its sig. Not sure on the high bore axis though, have heard the trigger is weird
- walther ppx/creed. Would have to find a used one which is fine. the grip is amazing on these
- Hi point. I can laugh off the stigma. If its reliable and accurate enough I have a sense of humour

I am just not sure on the DA/SA trigger but can be convinced otherwise.
- norino p226 copy. Have heard good things
- norinco CZ75 copy. I have handle a CZ and they are super nice

Looking for people's input on these guns or others than I have overlooked. I really don't want to go over $400.
 
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Grand Power K100. Everything you want in a pistol. Accuracy, reliability, function, wicked trigger in both SA/DA, fit/finish. But cheaper. And can be found for around 400$ used.
 
Gnome75 said:
Have never seen one used at 400 or in anything but DA/SA. I will look into it
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Ive been trying to sell mine since Dec. Just not everybody cup of Tea. I just got it as a back up.

Gnome75 said:
Is the trigger as horrible as the real sig I shot? The real one had a very long reset and long take up. Was not happy. Nice grip on it though
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NP22 triggers are worst than real Sigs. Very hard, gritty.
 
If you're looking for a "lifetime" pistol, I wouldn't skimp. $400 is not a huge budget, but let's say you add $600 to that to give yourself a $1,000 budget.
If you're going to own it for say 20 years, that extra $600 is $0.08 per day. Or one round every 3 or 4 days.

Over the lifetime, its the ammo that is the big money, not the firearm.

So I'd say go big, buy something that you really enjoy and will continue to enjoy for many, many years.
 
S&W sd9ve. Well under $400. If you don't like the trigger then upgrade it for $60. Alot of guys ##### about the trigger but don't seem to realize it was designed with a heavy pull for a reason. Invalid complaint as far as I'm concerned. I have one, and it's a great gun. I recommend it.
 
Gnome75 said:
Have never seen one used at 400 or in anything but DA/SA. I will look into it
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With the Grand Power, you don't need to shoot it DA unless you want to. It's mainly SA, with a DA option. Has a manual safety you can use. But if you wan't to shoot DA you have to manually drop the hammer. Unlike the Sigs, where if you want it on safe you need to drop the hammer and shoot DA first.
 
OkayShooter said:
With the Grand Power, you don't need to shoot it DA unless you want to. It's mainly SA, with a DA option. Has a manual safety you can use. But if you wan't to shoot DA you have to manually drop the hammer. Unlike the Sigs, where if you want it on safe you need to drop the hammer and shoot DA first.
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So you put your finger in the way and pull the trigger to drop the hammer? In that case my interest in up.
 
josh1976 said:
S&W sd9ve. Well under $400. If you don't like the trigger then upgrade it for $60. Alot of guys ##### about the trigger but don't seem to realize it was designed with a heavy pull for a reason. Invalid complaint as far as I'm concerned. I have one, and it's a great gun. I recommend it.
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I have looked at those. I always get turned off by the two tone. I really should look back into that one. Heavy trigger is fine. I had to use a new York trigger on the glock and M&P. sucks for bulls eye but is fine for combat shooting
 
I have the Girsan MC28 and a Turkish clone of the CZ 75 by Canik (Tri Star S120)
Both take the same Mec-Gar mags
I have shot the CZ75 Shadow 2 and my Tri Star back to back along with the owner of the CZ. His comment after shooting the Tri Star is it was 85% of the CZ @ a third of the price. The main difference is the sights, weight, and trigger reset. The CZ had a fiber optic front sight was very slightly lighter and had absolutely no trigger creep after the reset.
The MC28 is a tupperware pistol and out of the box is impressive for the money. I am about 600+ rounds in and am finding it a challenge to shoot as well as the Tri Star, this is to be expected as it is a striker fired pistol with a plastic lower. The trigger is good on mine with no gritty feeling a good reset and just a little creep to let off.
I purchased the Tri Star used so do not know the round count but I personally have put 2000+ rounds through it all brass case from a variety of manufactures without issue.
I have considered upgrading the Tri Star with the front sight being the first. As it is a clone "most" of the CZ aftermarket parts will fit, so things like Wolf springs, Hi Viz sights, aftermarket grips and Mags are OK. I cannot speak to internals there are some small differences but on a quick check the slides are interchangeable but we did not risk a test fire.
Both are good value and both work right out of the box. I am happy with both purchases and converted the savings into ammunition.
 
Gnome75 said:
So you put your finger in the way and pull the trigger to drop the hammer? In that case my interest in up.
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Basically. It's a single action first with a manual AMBI safety. Everything on the gun is for left or right handed. ALL controls are mirrored, Even the slide stop.

#### the slide, shoot it like a 1911, place it on safe, put it in a holster with the hammer back. But if you don't want to run the manual safeties. You have the option of shooting it DA. Where you gotta put your thumb on the hammer and pull the trigger to drop it. And honestly the DA pull is the slickest Ive ever handled.

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Target model ( X cal )
 
I own the following:

Norinco 1911 .45; I shoot better with it than any other Center Fire Pistol I own or have owned. Reliable, accurate and looks good too (mine is satin chrome).
Norinco NZ85B in 9mm CZ clone. Nice gun, great trigger, double action not bad either. Shoots great, and feeds reliably.
NZ58, Sig clone in .40 S&W. Single action trigger has a long takeup like a Sig does, and a fairly long reset (CZ has very little). Double action was terible when I got it, but with the decocking leaver, I practiced a lot, and it is now about as good as a Sig.

Any of these three can be found on sale or used for about $300.00.

I'm sure the others mentioned are OK too, but the SD9s have not had a good reputation.
 
I was going to make a comment on a lifetime pistol for 400.oo, but no, the sig can or can not have long or short reset.
norinco makes some good pistols, my 1911 is a great one, that has had a bunch of work done on it, out shoot my Kimber target I had.
I have a 1911 9mm that shoots great out of the box, trigger not bad, unless you are use to match triggers.
If you where trained on Hi Power, than trigger pull should not be a issue.
I am old enough , I stopped buying guns because they where "cheap" years ago.
 
I don't get what you are saying, May need more coffee, if you lower the hammer, how are you going to shoot single action?
racking the slide to #### the hammer ,I would not call single action as you have dumped your first round on the ground.
OkayShooter said:
Basically. It's a single action first with a manual AMBI safety. Everything on the gun is for left or right handed. ALL controls are mirrored, Even the slide stop.

#### the slide, shoot it like a 1911, place it on safe, put it in a holster with the hammer back. But if you don't want to run the manual safeties. You have the option of shooting it DA. Where you gotta put your thumb on the hammer and pull the trigger to drop it. And honestly the DA pull is the slickest Ive ever handled.

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Target model ( X cal )
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josh1976 said:
S&W sd9ve. Well under $400. If you don't like the trigger then upgrade it for $60. Alot of guys ##### about the trigger but don't seem to realize it was designed with a heavy pull for a reason. Invalid complaint as far as I'm concerned. I have one, and it's a great gun. I recommend it.
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Do you think it's worth it to spend a bit more and get the S&W M&P 9 2.0 or the sd9ve is a good buy regardless?
 
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