Action for a PRS Build

There is a TON of good information in this thread and I wish I had something like this to read when I was doing my dedicated PRS build in 2015. Lot's of good points have been brought up, and if it's any consolation, this is what I have learned through my past few years of experience with gun building for this game:

Action - doesn't matter. Get something that a.) fit's your budget, b.) has an aftermarket and c.) gun smiths will work on. I started with (and still currently run) a Tikka T3 factory action, but a standard R700 or Savage also works well. If you're going aftermarket and want to keep the price down, have a look at Ultimatum (no import fee's and they offer a barreled action option), Defiance Tenacity (newly released at $885 US) or maybe try get on the ARC Nucleus order list (?). If you want to swing for the fences, as mentioned before, there are much better options available than Cadex (and customer service is meh), I am going Defiance on my next rifle, but Impact, Surgeon, Curtis, Tubeor, Kelby's, PGW, etc are all solid. DO NOT OVERTHINK YOUR ACTION CHOICE... rather overthink the:

Barrel - Much more important than the action, IMO. For the PRS game, Rugby Dave is right and weight is your friend. The average barrel used by top PRS competitors is a 26" M24/M40 contour barrel, threaded for a brake (5/8"-24 usually). I highly advise going heavy with the barrel, partially for the weight gains and partially for the heat dissipation gains. If you're going 6.5 stick with a 1:8" twist, but if you're going 6, the caliber can determine the twist (safe bet there is probably 1:7.5"). As for manufacturers, for sure check out Krieger, Bartlien, Benchmark, Hawk Hill, Proof Research (NO CARBON just their steel offerings) or Broughton, and I'm sure Gary will be able to bring them in for you. If you want to stick Canadian and have a relatively short lead time, maybe give the boys over at International Barrels in BC a shout and they will be able to help you out, usually for cheaper ;)

Stock/Chassis - This one is also a never ending debate, but can be summarized really easily: BUY WHAT FITS YOU. There is no right answer. Don't know what fits you? Don't worry, none of us did when we started this game and most PRS/NRL competitors will tell you that they're probably on at least their second or third chassis/stock already. You're probably going to go through a couple of these, but a sneaky way to test a lot of really high end gear, without having to buy any of it is to volunteer as an RO for a match. Your profile says that you're in N.B, so there aren't that many national level matches around you, however, I am sure you could find your way to a club match! If you RO a stage, you get to watch and talk to pretty much every competitor that comes through, and more often than not, they will let you get behind their gun and try stuff out. That way, you get to watch what works and what doesn't (pay attention to how the stock/chassis works on terrain, barricades, odd angles, when the mag is compromised (tilting), etc.) and make a choice based on that.

Optics/Rings/Magazines/Bipods/Bags/you name it - will also be evolving as you go, and you will never stop collecting gear. Do not stress the little things, spend the money where it is needed (good optics and good rings (like more than $1000 on glass and $150 on rings)), and just go shoot. Look at the amount of guys out there (and in this thread) who will say "I don't actually shoot PRS, but..." or "I'm about to shoot my first match, this is what you should do...", don't worry about what those guys say, they still have the same amount of learning to do as you. Go to a match (or RO), talk to competitors and get your grubby little hands on as much as you can before you jump down a $2000+ hole!

It's up to you my friend, but have fun out there. Just my 0.61 cents,

- Kudu
 
There is a TON of good information in this thread and I wish I had something like this to read when I was doing my dedicated PRS build in 2015. Lot's of good points have been brought up, and if it's any consolation, this is what I have learned thro

- Kudu

I abbreviated your post but this was a great answer and it speaks the hard truth. You will be spending money for a bit to figure out what you like. If the scene was bigger in Canada we could maybe try out a bit more stuff but that isnt the case.
 
Wow, some really great advice offered here in all of the replies. I thank you all for taking the time to post.

A thought... perhaps I should just re-barrel my 6.5x55 T3 Varmint which is sitting in a McMillan A5 with CDI bottom metal and try shooting a match prior to heading into a dedicated build. Having read the wealth of information presented, it may be wise to just get off my ass, ditch the "am I good enough and do I have good enough kit" mentality, and get out and shoot a match prior to building... I can't help but think it would be nice to have a shiny new action in hand though, lol.

I sincerely thank all who have contributed to this thread as well as all who have pm'd me with advice; you have certainly got me thinking on multiple levels!
 
Why rebarrel 6.5 swede is a great cartridge.

I agree that the 6.5x55 is a great caliber for hunting and other shooting disciplines, but for precision rifle you want to run a short action. If I were you Slug870, I would re-barrel to a SA 6.5 mm or 6 mm, which you can do with the Tikka quite easily :)
 
I ran a season using a 6.5X55 PRS gun. Ask lots of guys in Alberta who shoot PRS and they will know exactly what gun I am referring to.

Great cartridge, spits out 140gr bullets at good speeds. Downside is 10rd mags are the size of VHS tapes and the tapered case design means you end up trimming cases a lot more than more modern designs.

I wish I kept that gun...
 
So here's what I'm thinking at the moment... I want to purchase an action; that's a given, however I simply cannot afford to lay down the cost of a complete new rig all in one shot. With that said, I will be purchasing the action (after reviewing all advice offered here in this thread and via pm) while re-barreling my T3 Varmint. This will allow me to slowly acquire the parts for a complete build while working with the kit I have; all the while not having to whore myself and the dog out to afford my shooting desires (the dog is kinda cute, but trust me; I'm nothing special to look at so revenue would be minimal :d ).

I ran a season using a 6.5X55 PRS gun. Ask lots of guys in Alberta who shoot PRS and they will know exactly what gun I am referring to.

Great cartridge, spits out 140gr bullets at good speeds. Downside is 10rd mags are the size of VHS tapes and the tapered case design means you end up trimming cases a lot more than more modern designs.

I wish I kept that gun...

I really do not want to stray from my 6.5x55 with my T3 Varmint despite the long action and VHS mags. The trimming I fully understand, but (at the risk of derailing my own thread), what if I re-barreled it with a 6.5x55AI? Only thing that needs to be changed is the barrel, brass trimming reduced by 50-80% (depending on which article you read) and still a great rig to get into the PRS game with?

Thoughts?
 
What I meant was put a new (Kreiger) MTU barrel in 6.5x55 on the Tikka action.

If the barrel will keep 10 rds into 3/4 MOA or better at 200yds using a moderate/light load behind a 130 to 142gr match bullet, just go shoot a match.

Nothing wrong with the tikka action... typically, the factory barrels shoot great. You have a stock that is comfy to you... you have a mag system that feeds. What more would a "custom" rig give you?

if you slow the 140's to high 26's, low 27's, you have essentially the 6.5 Creedmoor/ 6.5X47L load so you get the same ballistics and recoil to learn from. Now if the barrel is shot out or not accurate, by all means put on a better barrel... but at that time, consider a smaller cartridge like the Creedmoor or X47L family in either the 6.5 or 6mm variants (6XC is another wonderful chambering)

The smaller case allows for more effective use of smaller charges of powder... less recoil, longer bore life, plenty accurate.

We all love to talk about "shiney" stuff... but practising and learning how to get steady in awkward positions will pay higher dividends and that is just trigger time.

Jerry

PS, CDI makes a SA Tikka DBM so you can go from the LA mag which has a very low rd count, to the SA and enjoy all the wonderful 10 and larger AICS type mags. Most stages in PRS will be 8 to 12 rds so using a 5 to 7rds mag puts you at a big disadvantage.
 
Where are you at in NB?

The range in Springfield (Google FRSA) has a couple of PRS matches coming up in the fall. I believe there are also a couple more that will be hosted through RNBRA at CFB Gagetown. Check out the competition thread, there is a sticky for NB PRS matches. I haven’t shot at any others but the stages are legit PRS stages that you would see on YouTube.
 
Run that 6.5X55, not sure what the stages are like in NB. If they are longer than 90 seconds you can probably make it work with 5rd mags, if they are short though a 10rd mag will be needed.

You can do the 6.5X55AI or you can look into the 6.5 Addiction (Swedemoor). They are pretty much the same thing with some minor changes in the angles.

I would recommend getting a brake if you do not have one.

I think you are ready to roll for your first PRS match.
 
Honestly, the matches that I’ve been to aren’t super competitive. Some of us have our gear dialed in but most are just getting into PRS and are looking to have to fun and learn. The shoots that I’ve been at have had 2min stages but really ... you want to finish the stage and go over time? Have at it ... want to shoot unlimited rounds? Go for it ... want to shoot easier targets? Why not. The goal is to have fun.
 
Honestly, the matches that I’ve been to aren’t super competitive. Some of us have our gear dialed in but most are just getting into PRS and are looking to have to fun and learn. The shoots that I’ve been at have had 2min stages but really ... you want to finish the stage and go over time? Have at it ... want to shoot unlimited rounds? Go for it ... want to shoot easier targets? Why not. The goal is to have fun.

It is awesome that you guys got that going out there.
 
Ken at Bullseye just opened up a presale on the Kelbly Atlas actions. If you don't know anything about the Kelbly actions they are worth Checking out. There actions have won and set a ton of records in fclass and benchrest. Kelbly have taken what they learned from these disciplines put it into a tactical action. You will never feel a better timed smooth action, packed with tons of features.

Check them out at the link below.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...tlas-Tactical-Action-(Short-Action)-308-Right
 
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